[jh_f30]

Originally Posted by sinopath

My 2017 440i is pre LCI and the holding upshift works, 4 series didn't go LCI until 2018 model year.

Technically, yes. I guess N-series engines vs. B-series engines is more accurate. LCI in the context of the F30 is MY2016 and up.

[Sinner328]

Thank you for all y’all’s responses. I’ll be trying the pulling + paddle and both paddles and see what happens (2016 N20)

[Yiolli]

Originally Posted by jh_f30

A flick of the lever left then right is pretty quick, imo. My car is pre-LCI, so the paddle pull method is not an option. I wonder if this can be coded. Though I really wish it was like some DCTs where pulling both paddles puts it in neutral.

It is quick but it gets annoying if you're downshifting 10 + times during a drive you and you constantly have to do that

[jh_f30]

Originally Posted by Yiolli

It is quick but it gets annoying if you're downshifting 10 + times during a drive you and you constantly have to do that

If you're downshifting that often, wouldn't it make more sense to just leave it in manual mode?

[Yiolli]

Originally Posted by jh_f30

If you're downshifting that often, wouldn't it make more sense to just leave it in manual mode?

The downshift is more for engine breaking. I have the habit of downshifting whenever a red light or stop is ahead to save my brakes a little bit. Then when I get to a stop or slow down I don't want to have to shift up through 1, 2, 3, etc so I do that whole exercise

[jh_f30]

Originally Posted by Yiolli

The downshift is more for engine breaking. I have the habit of downshifting whenever a red light or stop is ahead to save my brakes a little bit. Then when I get to a stop or slow down I don't want to have to shift up through 1, 2, 3, etc so I do that whole exercise

Ok. The transmission does downshift automatically as you're coming to a stop, though not as pre-emptively as you might to engine brake. I remember an old teacher once told me replacing brakes is easier and cheaper than a clutch/tranny and that's why he doesn't engine brake as often. I'm not sure how much added strain it puts on the ZF and engine and how that might affect longevity, but if it's brakes vs. tranny/drivetrain, I'd rather replace brake components. Obviously, it's different if you're coming down a long incline where not overheating your brakes becomes a consideration.

[Yiolli]

Originally Posted by jh_f30

Ok. The transmission does downshift automatically as you're coming to a stop, though not as pre-emptively as you might to engine brake. I remember an old teacher once told me replacing brakes is easier and cheaper than a clutch/tranny and that's why he doesn't engine brake as often. I'm not sure how much added strain it puts on the ZF and engine and how that might affect longevity, but if it's brakes vs. tranny/drivetrain, I'd rather replace brake components. Obviously, it's different if you're coming down a long incline where not overheating your brakes becomes a consideration.

True, I probably do it way too often. I should stop. Lol