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      07-07-2018, 08:46 AM   #1
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Das speeden ticketen

Gents - do I need to pay Dutch speeding tickets?

If I don't, will I get finger-bummed next time I pass from Schipol?

300 euros that I'd rather spend on beer, but I visit Holland a fair bit on business so will cough up if need be.
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Gents - do I need to pay Dutch speeding tickets?

If I don't, will I get finger-bummed next time I pass from Schipol?

300 euros that I'd rather spend on beer, but I visit Holland a fair bit on business so will cough up if need be.
Of course you do. If for no other reason that it’s morally the right thing to do.
If the question was from a UK visitor regarding a UK ticket what would your answer be? “Come on over son. Tear up the roads, no problem, no tickets”
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Colleague of mine got pulled from the passport queue at Schiphol around a year ago whilst attempting to transfer to another EU flight and was hauled off to the local station to settle an unpaid fine.
Wouldn’t have been so bad if she wasn’t travelling with the MD and sales director at the time and missed her connection
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Gents - do I need to pay Dutch speeding tickets?

If I don't, will I get finger-bummed next time I pass from Schipol?

300 euros that I'd rather spend on beer, but I visit Holland a fair bit on business so will cough up if need be.
No. Absolutely not. You'd have been traveling on your fake plates?
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Gents - do I need to pay Dutch speeding tickets?

If I don't, will I get finger-bummed next time I pass from Schipol?

300 euros that I'd rather spend on beer, but I visit Holland a fair bit on business so will cough up if need be.
Of course you do. If for no other reason that it’s morally the right thing to do.
If the question was from a UK visitor regarding a UK ticket what would your answer be? “Come on over son. Tear up the roads, no problem, no tickets”
Morally it doesn't cost 300 quid to send me a letter and so we take our breaks where we can.

And yes, if I knew that the U.K. lot didn't follow up fines and a foreign mate got caught doing 10mph over the limit on a busy motorway then I'd tell him to ignore it.

Thanks for your input though, well worth your effort
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Colleague of mine got pulled from the passport queue at Schiphol around a year ago whilst attempting to transfer to another EU flight and was hauled off to the local station to settle an unpaid fine.
Wouldn’t have been so bad if she wasn’t travelling with the MD and sales director at the time and missed her connection
That's the answer then - cough up!
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Morally it doesn't cost 300 quid to send me a letter and so we take our breaks where we can.

And yes, if I knew that the U.K. lot didn't follow up fines and a foreign mate got caught doing 10mph over the limit on a busy motorway then I'd tell him to ignore it.

Thanks for your input though, well worth your effort
You visited their country, you broke their law, and you don't think you should pay the penalty where you've been caught?

Surely €300 is the penalty not an admin fee...
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Morally it doesn't cost 300 quid to send me a letter and so we take our breaks where we can.

And yes, if I knew that the U.K. lot didn't follow up fines and a foreign mate got caught doing 10mph over the limit on a busy motorway then I'd tell him to ignore it.

Thanks for your input though, well worth your effort
You visited their country, you broke their law, and you don't think you should pay the penalty where you've been caught?

Surely €300 is the penalty not an admin fee...
I think they should pay me to visit their country
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You visited their country, you broke their law, and you don't think you should pay the penalty where you've been caught?

Surely €300 is the penalty not an admin fee...
Thing is, when the law is patently an ass, no one takes any notice of it.

Anyone here stick to the 70mph motorway speed limit? No. It's just advisory.
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Thing is, when the law is patently an ass, no one takes any notice of it.

Anyone here stick to the 70mph motorway speed limit? No. It's just advisory.
Personally I see a big difference between choosing to disobey rules on my own country, and disobeying in others where I am a guest. But either way if you get caught you ought to cough up. You accepted the risk of punishment when you chose to break it.
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Gents - do I need to pay Dutch speeding tickets?

If I don't, will I get finger-bummed next time I pass from Schipol?

300 euros that I'd rather spend on beer, but I visit Holland a fair bit on business so will cough up if need be.
I paid a simar extortionate fine from Italy for supposedly running a red light somewhere.

Probably could have ignored it but it's one of those things you don't want catching up with you in 10 years out of the blue, when they pull their fingers out and get round to follow up in paid fines.

Take it on the chin now as you may not be able to if and when it surfaces again.
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it’s morally the right thing to do.
What is this witchcraft?
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Morally it doesn't cost 300 quid to send me a letter and so we take our breaks where we can.

And yes, if I knew that the U.K. lot didn't follow up fines and a foreign mate got caught doing 10mph over the limit on a busy motorway then I'd tell him to ignore it.

Thanks for your input though, well worth your effort
If you don't want an answer, then don't post.

Would your same lack of morals tell you not to leave a note on a car if you damaged it because it would cost over £300. Top of the class for your well reasoned logic

Pretty much everyone here is telling you to cough up.
If you can't pay the fine, then don't do the crime...
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You visited their country, you broke their law, and you don't think you should pay the penalty where you've been caught?

Surely €300 is the penalty not an admin fee...
Thing is, when the law is patently an ass, no one takes any notice of it.

Anyone here stick to the 70mph motorway speed limit? No. It's just advisory.
I'd love to see the face of the magistrate when you tell them speed limits are only advisory!
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Personally I see a big difference between choosing to disobey rules on my own country, and disobeying in others where I am a guest. But either way if you get caught you ought to cough up. You accepted the risk of punishment when you chose to break it.
I've never had guests spending thousands of pounds in my house.
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I'd love to see the face of the magistrate when you tell them speed limits are only advisory!
All speed limits are advisory. The accidents happen when Muppets think they're compulsory.
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What is this witchcraft?
Apologies. I don't think there is an accurate translation into Scouse.
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"I broke the law in another country and they caught me, do I need to pay the fine or can I just get away with it as I don't live there?"
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Thing is, when the law is patently an ass, no one takes any notice of it.

Anyone here stick to the 70mph motorway speed limit? No. It's just advisory.
This is "The" issue Nick, the current speed limits in this country are a joke, even the police think they are I was caught doing an indicated 90mph on the A1 and got sent on a SAC so that tells you what they think.

I have been "caught" doing 100mph on the A1 and all the unmarked car did was pull in front of me flash his blues and wag his finger.

We need a sensible debate on this stuff but when you get the sort of pious responses on a thread like this from people that have probably all broken the speed limit today you do wonder about your fellow men....

OP you'll have to pay the fine but 300 euros is a piss take.
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Thing is, when the law is patently an ass, no one takes any notice of it.

Anyone here stick to the 70mph motorway speed limit? No. It's just advisory.
This is "The" issue Nick, the current speed limits in this country are a joke, even the police think they are I was caught doing an indicated 90mph on the A1 and got sent on a SAC so that tells you what they think.

I have been "caught" doing 100mph on the A1 and all the unmarked car did was pull in front of me flash his blues and wag his finger.

We need a sensible debate on this stuff but when you get the sort of pious responses on a thread like this from people that have probably all broken the speed limit today you do wonder about your fellow men....

OP you'll have to pay the fine but 300 euros is a piss take.
I'd rather pay €300 with no points than £100 and 3 points!

Isn't there an EU wide speeding points system coming in soon?
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I'd rather pay €300 with no points than £100 and 3 points!

Isn't there an EU wide speeding points system coming in soon?
I'd rather see an EU-wide fines system being implemented, along the lines of the Dutch system. The fast you are going when you get caught, the proportionately higher the fine. If you can't pay the fine I guess you get another punishment including jail time.

Points accumulation, leading to a ban, for minor contraventions of speeds limits is ridiculous IMO. Bans should be used as a penalty for massive over-speeding, driving under the influence, death or grievous bodily harm caused by motor vehicle, etc, plus jail terms as appropriate.
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