Pure 800 cast flew to the angels

B58togo · 03-17-2024, 07:12 PM

Apparently she's pushing oil out of both ends. Only had about 6,500 miles on it. Had a feeling something wasn't 100% right. Going to order a DAW Ultra Flow tomorrow, along with Nostrum injectors. Sucks, but what can you do? Blown stock > Vargas GC (6k?, sold) > blown Pure 800 (6.5k) > DAW.

nosam1g · 03-17-2024, 09:43 PM

i think if its leaking through both ends its usually too much crank case pressure/draining problem(no kinks in line-right diameter etc) . are you running occ ?

mike082802 · 03-18-2024, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by B58togo

Apparently she's pushing oil out of both ends. Only had about 6,500 miles on it. Had a feeling something wasn't 100% right. Going to order a DAW Ultra Flow tomorrow, along with Nostrum injectors. Sucks, but what can you do? Blown stock > Vargas GC (6k?, sold) > blown Pure 800 (6.5k) > DAW.

why dont you wait a few weeks to see what the new DAW turbo options are? I think they are coming out with 2 or three different options, Kern and a few others are running them. Or Docrace just released a budget mount for $3500 or something.

B58togo · 03-18-2024, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by nosam1g

i think if its leaking through both ends its usually too much crank case pressure/draining problem(no kinks in line-right diameter etc) . are you running occ ?

No occ, but contemplating it. I was running the Vargas oil cap breather.

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Originally Posted by mike082802

why dont you wait a few weeks to see what the new DAW turbo options are? I think they are coming out with 2 or three different options, Kern and a few others are running them. Or Docrace just released a budget mount for $3500 or something.

Don’t really want it sitting at the shop for too long, but I am interested in options. I see they make an Ultra Flow R for the TU B58.

n55david · 03-18-2024, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mike082802

why dont you wait a few weeks to see what the new DAW turbo options are? I think they are coming out with 2 or three different options, Kern and a few others are running them. Or Docrace just released a budget mount for $3500 or something.

It's my understanding that they sre just moving to the same cast options that pure uses.. then expanding their options etc

nosam1g · 03-18-2024, 09:27 AM

I dont think it was the turbo failing but a problem outside a turbo causing it to fail. Im no expert but with the mods listed and im assuming your 600hp with no occ ooof it was bound to go poof no occ/bov to relieve pressure? I have the ross racing with double ports on top for max crank case relief

B58togo · 03-20-2024, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nosam1g

I dont think it was the turbo failing but a problem outside a turbo causing it to fail. Im no expert but with the mods listed and im assuming your 600hp with no occ ooof it was bound to go poof no occ/bov to relieve pressure? I have the ross racing with double ports on top for max crank case relief

Thanks, man. Think I will get the Ross kit. Will this work with the Burger intake? And do I want the OCC breather adapter with the 5’ hose?

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nosam1g · 03-20-2024, 08:04 PM

i got the v2 w/5' , send him a email he responds quickly

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mike@x-ph.com · 03-21-2024, 11:45 AM

Any details on what caused the failure?

B58togo · 03-21-2024, 12:21 PM

Thinking now it was not running occ? No shaft play or other damage, so just needs the seal replaced I think.

I just ordered the DAW ultra flow from you last night! How quickly will that ship?

talontdone · 03-21-2024, 06:50 PM

Sorry to hear about your luck. I’m on the DAW 2.5+ with upgraded wheel and pushing the car pretty hard now at 35-36 psi on E85 and the turbo has been awesome … this post makes me wonder if I should be worried about crankcase pressure running around in the 670 whp range. Any cons to going with the Ross kit? Do you think the VTT cap was helpful at all?

B58togo · 03-22-2024, 07:25 AM

Damn, 35-36 psi is stout! Do you have port? I’m all over the place with DI vs port. Not much info out there yet on Spool or Nostrum injectors and I want to order one or the other in the next day or two. Doug said he got a DAW car with Nostrum Stg 1 injectors to make 675 wheel on E40. Was that you by any chance?

mike@x-ph.com · 03-22-2024, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by B58togo

Thinking now it was not running occ? No shaft play or other damage, so just needs the seal replaced I think.

I just ordered the DAW ultra flow from you last night! How quickly will that ship?

Please email support@x-ph.com your order number and they will have a more accurate answer for you

nosam1g · 03-22-2024, 08:17 PM

No cons , it actually really good for your engine letting it breath only air / catching oil blow by / relieving pressure. With no occ your pcv is feeding oil back into the turbo inlet. the v2 allows for max pressure relief. With the b58 there is no bov on the cp.. and all the remaining pressure gets exerted out the engine into turbo out the exhaust. Like i mentioned im no expert but , oil out both ends seems like too much pressure and pushing out both seals , or kink in oil drain line(but its pure800 using stock lines), so its not drain line, youd have to check. With the big Turbos they have a bov mounted on turbo manifold to relieve pressure

Heres my setup

mike@x-ph.com · 03-23-2024, 01:03 PM

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Heres my setup

03-17-2024, 07:12 PM	#1
B58togo Major 809 Rep 1,369 Posts Drives: M240i Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Pure 800 cast flew to the angels Apparently she's pushing oil out of both ends. Only had about 6,500 miles on it. Had a feeling something wasn't 100% right. Going to order a DAW Ultra Flow tomorrow, along with Nostrum injectors. Sucks, but what can you do? Blown stock > Vargas GC (6k?, sold) > blown Pure 800 (6.5k) > DAW. __________________ 2017 M240i/ ZF8 Pure Drivetrain Solutions Stage 1 & torque converter/xHP/ DAW Ultra Flow/ DS2/ Nostrum injectors/ E40 Doug Newton tuned/ ER DP/ Remus axle back/ BMS intake/ FTP CP/ M Perf LSD
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nosam1g First Lieutenant 66 Rep 329 Posts Drives: 2018 340i Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: WEST iTrader: (0)	i think if its leaking through both ends its usually too much crank case pressure/draining problem(no kinks in line-right diameter etc) . are you running occ ? __________________ 2018 340i - MHD CUSTOM TUNE, PURE850, DORCH STG2.5,MHD-FLEX-FUEL, M-PERF LSD, XHP Stg 2, CSF Heat Exchanger, M-Perf EXHAUST Mid Pipe BACK, Ross Racing Oil Catch Can, Evo Race Work Downpipe, PURE Inlet, DINAN Intake, VRSF Chargepipe 2011 335is - SOLD Last edited by nosam1g; 03-18-2024 at 01:15 AM..
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nosam1g First Lieutenant 66 Rep 329 Posts Drives: 2018 340i Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: WEST iTrader: (0)	I dont think it was the turbo failing but a problem outside a turbo causing it to fail. Im no expert but with the mods listed and im assuming your 600hp with no occ ooof it was bound to go poof no occ/bov to relieve pressure? I have the ross racing with double ports on top for max crank case relief __________________ 2018 340i - MHD CUSTOM TUNE, PURE850, DORCH STG2.5,MHD-FLEX-FUEL, M-PERF LSD, XHP Stg 2, CSF Heat Exchanger, M-Perf EXHAUST Mid Pipe BACK, Ross Racing Oil Catch Can, Evo Race Work Downpipe, PURE Inlet, DINAN Intake, VRSF Chargepipe 2011 335is - SOLD Last edited by nosam1g; 03-18-2024 at 11:01 AM..
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nosam1g First Lieutenant 66 Rep 329 Posts Drives: 2018 340i Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: WEST iTrader: (0)	i got the v2 w/5' , send him a email he responds quickly https://www.rossrperformance.com/pro...elete-version2 __________________ 2018 340i - MHD CUSTOM TUNE, PURE850, DORCH STG2.5,MHD-FLEX-FUEL, M-PERF LSD, XHP Stg 2, CSF Heat Exchanger, M-Perf EXHAUST Mid Pipe BACK, Ross Racing Oil Catch Can, Evo Race Work Downpipe, PURE Inlet, DINAN Intake, VRSF Chargepipe 2011 335is - SOLD Last edited by nosam1g; 03-20-2024 at 09:29 PM..
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B58togo Major 809 Rep 1,369 Posts Drives: M240i Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Thinking now it was not running occ? No shaft play or other damage, so just needs the seal replaced I think. I just ordered the DAW ultra flow from you last night! How quickly will that ship? __________________ 2017 M240i/ ZF8 Pure Drivetrain Solutions Stage 1 & torque converter/xHP/ DAW Ultra Flow/ DS2/ Nostrum injectors/ E40 Doug Newton tuned/ ER DP/ Remus axle back/ BMS intake/ FTP CP/ M Perf LSD
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talontdone Second Lieutenant 175 Rep 298 Posts Drives: 2017 BMW 340Xi Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Calgary, Canada iTrader: (0)	Sorry to hear about your luck. I’m on the DAW 2.5+ with upgraded wheel and pushing the car pretty hard now at 35-36 psi on E85 and the turbo has been awesome … this post makes me wonder if I should be worried about crankcase pressure running around in the 670 whp range. Any cons to going with the Ross kit? Do you think the VTT cap was helpful at all? __________________ 17 BMW 340iX / DAW UF/ DS2 HPFP
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B58togo Major 809 Rep 1,369 Posts Drives: M240i Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Damn, 35-36 psi is stout! Do you have port? I’m all over the place with DI vs port. Not much info out there yet on Spool or Nostrum injectors and I want to order one or the other in the next day or two. Doug said he got a DAW car with Nostrum Stg 1 injectors to make 675 wheel on E40. Was that you by any chance? __________________ 2017 M240i/ ZF8 Pure Drivetrain Solutions Stage 1 & torque converter/xHP/ DAW Ultra Flow/ DS2/ Nostrum injectors/ E40 Doug Newton tuned/ ER DP/ Remus axle back/ BMS intake/ FTP CP/ M Perf LSD
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nosam1g First Lieutenant 66 Rep 329 Posts Drives: 2018 340i Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: WEST iTrader: (0)	No cons , it actually really good for your engine letting it breath only air / catching oil blow by / relieving pressure. With no occ your pcv is feeding oil back into the turbo inlet. the v2 allows for max pressure relief. With the b58 there is no bov on the cp.. and all the remaining pressure gets exerted out the engine into turbo out the exhaust. Like i mentioned im no expert but , oil out both ends seems like too much pressure and pushing out both seals , or kink in oil drain line(but its pure800 using stock lines), so its not drain line, youd have to check. With the big Turbos they have a bov mounted on turbo manifold to relieve pressure Heres my setup Attached Images __________________ 2018 340i - MHD CUSTOM TUNE, PURE850, DORCH STG2.5,MHD-FLEX-FUEL, M-PERF LSD, XHP Stg 2, CSF Heat Exchanger, M-Perf EXHAUST Mid Pipe BACK, Ross Racing Oil Catch Can, Evo Race Work Downpipe, PURE Inlet, DINAN Intake, VRSF Chargepipe 2011 335is - SOLD Last edited by nosam1g; 03-22-2024 at 08:52 PM..
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