[jasemsport]

Here's some more pics and german flyer & pricelist.
It appears that in Germany (and other EU country) the 4 GC will be same price as 4 coupe and a little bit cheaper then the 3 GT...

https://www.bmw.de/dam/brandBM/marke...1185057804.pdf

https://www.bmw.de/dam/brandBM/marke...1089539642.pdf

[Faust]

Originally Posted by hwelvaar

+1 !!

This looks like a 4 series with 4 doors, and not like a 3 series.
Personally I prefer the sedan look. It's nice people have a choice.

This is where I disagree. The 6-Series GC looks like a 6-Series Coupe with 4 doors indeed. Very succesful. This doesn't even look like a sedan, more like a hatchback/liftback, almost like a 3-Series GT. Very different to what a Gran Coupe is supposed to be in my opinion. And as I've been saying all along, a 3rd window is totally un-BMW.

As it was mentioned earlier, this should have been the 3-Series GT and a smaller version of the 6-Series GC (strictly sedan - not hatchback nonesense) should have been the 4-Series GC instead.

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by jasemsport

Here's some more pics and german flyer & pricelist.
It appears that in Germany (and other EU country) the 4 GC will be same price as 4 coupe and a little bit cheaper then the 3 GT...




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Best pictures so far. Thanks Jase!

[Fedorov]

This car is pointless. Why not a 1 series Grand Coupe also then???

[loosenit2]

I wonder if there is any noticeable difference in interior noise levels between a 3 series, with a separate trunk compartment, and a 4 series GC with the trunk storage area open to the main cabin? The 3 series GT has a combined interior space as well doesn't it? Has anyone ever compared the interior noise of the 3 vs the 3 GT to see if it is perceptible?

SUVs are typically have more interior noise but I don't know how much of that is a factor of one cabin area and how much has to do with suspension, chassis etc vs the joined interior spaces.

In my mind I am having a hard time figuring out why it is necessary to have a 3 series 4-door, a 3-series GT and a 4 series 4-door Grand Coupe, but if BMWs marketing research says there is a market for it and folks want to spend money on it why should we judge?

[antremo]

Hey guys...

I haven't seen this video posted on here...thought you would like

[ska///235i]

I still think the car is like a boat but It fits my age and my family...decisions decisions

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by ska325xi

I still think the car is like a boat but It fits my age and my family...decisions decisions

Don't cop out. This car is not for you. It's a pointless design! You are cooler than that. Wait for the 2 Gran Coupe, or better yet the BMW 2 active tourer. Suits you better.


/Sarcasm

[Falafel Combo]

I realize this is from the European order guide, but it still gives me hope.


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[RoboM]

Originally Posted by Jason

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=941922

Many thanks Jason.

I wish this was F30 LCI rather than 4GC.

[johnofcross]

I like the value prop of the 4GC. Sleeker roofline, body, everything; I get that. But because it resembles the 3 series too much, I don't get it yet. Maybe when the 4 vs 3 brand has more individual distinction, like 5 vs 6 (5 is a looks great, 6 is just beautiful) then I can see the purpose of 4GC. But for now, if I want a 4-door, a 3 MSport should do, and 4 MSport for 2-door.
And no, a 3GT has a different position and does not even fill in the purpose of a 4GC. The rear hatch is the only resemblance, absolutely nothing else.

[SamS]

Originally Posted by inChargeOfIT

If I had known that they were going to make a slightly sportier 4 door sedan under the 'coupe' moniker, that was not far off in price (at least from a well appointed 3 series)... I would likely have made a different buying decision. Which is now making me regret (or at least resent) my purchase.

The intentions to make a 4er Gran Coupe were revealed a year before your got your car, and spy shots were posted here at least 4 months before you got your car.

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=637585
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=732231

You don't have to regret... just sell? I plan on selling mine in about a year to do another ED, this time for 4GC.

[Zirenz2006]

Love it!

[paulbazo]

Originally Posted by Eichler1

Right? Have the marketers gone mad? You have what clearly is a 4-door sedan with a slightly Audi/ last decade Mazda roofline and side window configuration, and it's a "coupe"??? And the 3 series GT is supposed to be seen as so different as to earn a "3" rather than a "4"? Is that because it is a hatchback?

How is this car "stunning" and the 3GT not? Other than BMW cognoscenti and badge snobs (assuming one would consider a "4" badge superior to a "3"), who will be able even to tell a 3GT and a 4 grand "coupe" apart? And if you want a car that looks like a warmed over Audi, why not just get the Audi? Or go for the blue light special: buy a decade-plus old Mazda 626. It would look basically the same, drive decently (and you could find one with a manual!), and would be 10 times more reliable than any BMW.

3GT / 4GC / '90s Mazda 626: separated at birth lol

Really? You can't tell the difference? You are lucky then , buy a honda and you will be happy, every car looks the same to you.
Other folks who can tell the difference are not as lucky as you.

[F06msportmia]

It's a nice looking car and would definitely look into getting one...

[monkawekrue]

eh. we will see.

[bigsid05]

Wow, I was wondering what the point of this car was, but IMO it looks a lot better than the 3 series. I like the coupe-like body shape much better. So, now what's the point of the 3 series?

[Marley71]

Originally Posted by Fedorov

This car is pointless. Why not a 1 series Grand Coupe also then???

Perhaps it's a language issue, but "pointless"? I assume the point of a car is to transport people, or to generate profits for the company? Don't you think the car will accomplish those two things.

[Mako]

Originally Posted by bigsid05

Wow, I was wondering what the point of this car was, but IMO it looks a lot better than the 3 series. I like the coupe-like body shape much better. So, now what's the point of the 3 series?

Glad I leased my F30

[cdgatti]

Originally Posted by bigsid05

Wow, I was wondering what the point of this car was, but IMO it looks a lot better than the 3 series. I like the coupe-like body shape much better. So, now what's the point of the 3 series?

Agree 150%... The first of the new BMW's that I can say I WANT THAT ONE!

[FotiosF90M5]

I think it's bmw's best looking car other than m3/4. I want one....but only when it gets more power.

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by bigsid05

Wow, I was wondering what the point of this car was, but IMO it looks a lot better than the 3 series. I like the coupe-like body shape much better. So, now what's the point of the 3 series?

And so it begins. FINALLY, people are getting the f36 design and are coming around and warming up to the new design language. f30 now looks ... weird and too sedan-y.


BUT ... so far, the f30 may be the only option for a four door MT in the US. If it comes down to an auto Gran Coupe or MT sedan, I'm getting the sedan. Damn.