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      07-15-2018, 05:36 PM   #1
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New Wheels/Tires Slight Rubbing

So I just installed 19x8.5 all around with 235/40s and i'm slightly rubbing. I only noticed it when I was in reverse with the wheel turned a certain amount. I didn't think i'd be anywhere close. I'm wondering what will happen once I put my ACS springs on. I never thought i'd be dealing with rubbing.
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So I just installed 19x8.5 all around with 235/40s and i'm slightly rubbing. I only noticed it when I was in reverse with the wheel turned a certain amount. I didn't think i'd be anywhere close. I'm wondering what will happen once I put my ACS springs on. I never thought i'd be dealing with rubbing.
A number of posts reporting issues with f32 x drives at 40 above 225.

As you have f36, you are sort of on your own, but not surprised given the f32 posts.

Unfortunately you listened to some posters in another thread who confused 18” and 19” tires, giving bad info along the way.

X Drives 4 series have less room if various others who have made that mistake are to be believed.

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Now I'm totally confuse too as I have 428i GC FR, I was on the market for some 437m wheel (staggered of course). All this confusing information...now at least you have a picture to prove it regardless its an X-drive.
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      07-15-2018, 06:44 PM   #4
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Well it just barely rubs under a specific set of conditions so right now I can easily live with it. The question is, will it rub worse when its lowered on ACS? I'm hoping not since the diameter of the tire is staying the same it's just sitting a bit lower.
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are those reps or oem 437M? @BuefordTjustice?
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235/40/19 exceeds BMW diameter of 26" for the F series. You are at 26.4.
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It’s not a huge problem. I just took it out and did some hard cornering and braking to test and I couldn’t get it to rub. It only rubs on the drivers side as the passenger side is a different fender well due to the intercooler
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Had to message and request a set of 4 19x8.5
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Just curious, what offset are the wheels and what brand of tires? I'm running MP4S 245/45r18(26.7") on 8.5et35 with no issues on my F30, granted there is less than a finger gap between the tire and the fender liner with the wheel turned.
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19x8.5 ET35 Goodyear Eagle F1 AS2. Again it's only that driver inner fender which I will probably just heat up and push a couple mm back and the tire will clear fine.
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That would drive me nuts.
its only going to rub long enough for that fender well liner to wear down enough to the point it no longer makes contact. The fact that it is inside and you could easy file it down to not rub makes this really a none issue.
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its only going to rub long enough for that fender well liner to wear down enough to the point it no longer makes contact. The fact that it is inside and you could easy file it down to not rub makes this really a none issue.
Finally! I'm as OCD as the next guy, if this was rubbing constantly I wouldn't deal with it. I just hope there's nothing new once I put my springs on.
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Finally! I'm as OCD as the next guy, if this was rubbing constantly I wouldn't deal with it. I just hope there's nothing new once I put my springs on.
i can only assume you would rub in the same spot just higher up on the fender liner.
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I've heard about this before in other posts. You have the wrong size tires on your car. Plain and simple. I've got to say this...take them off. If you hit a sizable imperfection in the roadway at speed you may have a serious safety problem...like steering issues. When it comes to your own safety and your family's safety don't chance it.
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I've heard about this before in other posts. You have the wrong size tires on your car. Plain and simple. I've got to say this...take them off. If you hit a sizable imperfection in the roadway at speed you may have a serious safety problem...like steering issues. When it comes to your own safety and your family's safety don't chance it.
did you look at the picture of where he is rubbing and did you read this
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I only noticed it when I was in reverse with the wheel turned a certain amount.
Its not like this dude is slammed running ridiculous negative camber with stretched tires. The small amount of rubbing on the inner fender liner when reversing (probably on an include) at full lock is not the same as hitting a sizable imperfection in the road and causing a safety issue. It's also easily fixed with either a heat gun or a dremel.
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I've heard about this before in other posts. You have the wrong size tires on your car. Plain and simple. I've got to say this...take them off. If you hit a sizable imperfection in the roadway at speed you may have a serious safety problem...like steering issues. When it comes to your own safety and your family's safety don't chance it.
The entire City of Chicago is a sizable road imperfection. There's no issue with bumps, it's only when you turn the wheel at 75% when in reverse, on a incline. I wanted as much sidewall as possible because we have such bad roads. It's not the safety issue you're making it out to be.
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The entire City of Chicago is a sizable road imperfection. There's no issue with bumps, it's only when you turn the wheel at 75% when in reverse, on a incline. I wanted as much sidewall as possible because we have such bad roads. It's not the safety issue you're making it out to be.
Good to know then...in any case its a beautiful car...all the best.
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did you look at the picture of where he is rubbing and did you read this


Its not like this dude is slammed running ridiculous negative camber with stretched tires. The small amount of rubbing on the inner fender liner when reversing (probably on an include) at full lock is not the same as hitting a sizable imperfection in the road and causing a safety issue. It's also easily fixed with either a heat gun or a dremel.
Thanks. Yep. I saw the picture. My opinion: never a good idea to oversize wheels and tires. Total car geometry changes and potential safety issues remain. Not to mention warranty issues, etc. Again, just my opinion.
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So I just installed 19x8.5 all around with 235/40s and i'm slightly rubbing. I only noticed it when I was in reverse with the wheel turned a certain amount. I didn't think i'd be anywhere close. I'm wondering what will happen once I put my ACS springs on. I never thought i'd be dealing with rubbing.
This is my F36 set up
19X8.5 225/40 for the front
19X9.5 255/35 for the rear
I never have any rubbing issues and I am on coil overs. I'm also running a 10mm spacer for the front and with or without the spacer still never had any rubbing.

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