[Blacktemplar]

Originally Posted by Alex440

Oh my, the hypocrisy. Strange to see a thread with one American contributing and being attacked, rather than the exact opposite on a hundred other threads in the "universal" section of the forum.

I've never noticed him much on the "other" side as his voice is one amongst many. But his poor spelling, grammar and punctuation on this thread is hurting my brain. I've not thought about the content of anything he's written, I've just been role playing a human spellcheck function.

I'm not a fan of jaghave by any means, but I don't think English is his first language. I speak French & Spanish reasonably competently, but I know I'd struggle to joust effectively in either in a space like this.

That said, he is a one-eyed Trumpet lover, with political views somewhere to the right of Ghengis Khan....

[Blacktemplar]

Originally Posted by Alex440

I made one comment, not as bad as most, but still belittling. But the worse it's got the guiltier I felt, so I just deleted it.

A couple are definitely bullying, not just bordering on it, like the picture posted recently on his GTR thread.

And this is why I like this forum. It's certainly got its share of internet cockwombles, but it's mostly self-policing and has a stripe of common decency running through it.

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Originally Posted by Alex440

I wish people would rein it in a little on P1 PET. He has little in common car taste wise with most on here and he is highly likely a youngster who happens to be a bit of a fantasist.

I've said this before, if he was my son I might ask him to quit with some of the lying. But, if I read this forum I'd be pretty pissed off at all the middle aged/elderly men being downright aggressive towards him.

I certainly haven't seen him talk to others in that way, even when seriously provoked. Apparently online bullying isn't just an issue with teens. This one might be mild in its language, but not its intent, and there have been quite a few a lot worse.

If he is like this in reality and lives in the UK, he will either be a statistic or someone will thump him.

Being a parent I know just how plain nasty teenagers etc can be, this is mild.

Also if he is a troll, he is now on stage two if trolling.

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by Alex440

I made one comment, not as bad as most, but still belittling. But the worse it's got the guiltier I felt, so I just deleted it.

A couple are definitely bullying, not just bordering on it, like the picture posted recently on his GTR thread.

I know what you mean, I've risen to the bait, posted and regretted it a bit.

I'm sure we've seen on some threads that he genuinely has a F30, just the dreaming takes over a lot. He does ruin an awful lot of threads though, and the backlash from that is somewhat inevitable.

His persona would probably attract less individual attention on a much busier forum that has more 'dreamers'.

[Goneinsixtyseconds]

Originally Posted by Blacktemplar

I'm not a fan of jaghave by any means, but I don't think English is his first language. I speak French & Spanish reasonably competently, but I know I'd struggle to joust effectively in either in a space like this.

That said, he is a one-eyed Trumpet lover, with political views somewhere to the right of Ghengis Khan....

My mistake, given his love of all things uber right I assumed he was a typical middle American white.

[Goneinsixtyseconds]

Originally Posted by MashinBenzin

I know what you mean, I've risen to the bait, posted and regretted it a bit.

I'm sure we've seen on some threads that he genuinely has a F30, just the dreaming takes over a lot. He does ruin an awful lot of threads though, and the backlash from that is somewhat inevitable.

His persona would probably attract less individual attention on a much busier forum that has more 'dreamers'.

I agree, but there has to be a point where you know what your posting is not acceptable. For me it came after realising he never attacks in response, ever, as far as I can see. Some see that as a green light to continue.

[Blacktemplar]

Originally Posted by Alex440

My mistake, given his love of all things uber right I assumed he was a typical middle American white.

I suppose he could be of Eastern European origin.

[Goneinsixtyseconds]

Originally Posted by Brigand

If he is like this in reality and lives in the UK, he will either be a statistic or someone will thump him.

Being a parent I know just how plain nasty teenagers etc can be, this is mild.

Also if he is a troll, he is now on stage two if trolling.

One day you'll say, "yeah, maybe I've been a little out of order", didn't really think about it myself. Like most others just have.

But not today.

Today you're just defending yourself and there's even some weird implication that you're actually doing him a favour by preparing him for worse to come.

I wish you were my dad.

And I must've missed a lot of his threads, I haven't seen him troll anyone. Unless you're meaning you're going to move your trolling of him up another level?!

[Blacktemplar]

Originally Posted by Brigand

If he is like this in reality and lives in the UK, he will either be a statistic or someone will thump him.

Being a parent I know just how plain nasty teenagers etc can be, this is mild.

Also if he is a troll, he is now on stage two if trolling.

True, but how many of us in here would speak to others or behave the way we do on t'interweb out in the real world? I know I probably wouldn't. Unless it was jaghave

Of course You, Symbol and Lobb are excused....

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Originally Posted by Blacktemplar

True, but how many of us in here would speak to others or behave the way we do on t'interweb? I know I probably wouldn't. Unless it was jaghave

Of course You, Symbol and Lobb are excused....

I am likely worse in real.

If I behaved on here how I do normally, I would get banned... oh.

From the likes of Arrse and EGoat, posts on here are mild.

On a positive note I did not comment on the BMW Bashing thread

[M40CCA]

Originally Posted by Alex440

I agree, but there has to be a point where you know what your posting is not acceptable. For me it came after realising he never attacks in response, ever, as far as I can see. Some see that as a green light to continue.

He's a bigger man than most on here because like you say he never bites back just lets it go straight over his head, got to like him for that

[Darth Helmut]

I do find the term bullying quite strange.

On the internet or a forum are we not all completely equal? Every single one of us here has complete freedom to either ignore remarks, reply or step away from the keyboard. And I do actually respect in a quaint way, P1 PETs bizarre attitude.

The concept of 'internet bullying' is a difficult one to understand....unless of course the web has replaced that particular individuals reality? In which case Darwin will probably win.

[Jaghave]

Originally Posted by Blacktemplar

True, but how many of us in here would speak to others or behave the way we do on t'interweb out in the real world? I know I probably wouldn't. Unless it was jaghave

Of course You, Symbol and Lobb are excused....

I'm more brutal in the real world, got into plenty of fist fights since I refuse to censor myself because someone has thin skin.

[Darth Helmut]

Originally Posted by Jaghave

I'm more brutal in the real world, got into plenty of fist fights since I refuse to censor myself because someone has thin skin.

I read that as 'you get punched a lot for being a gobby nobber'.

[Jaghave]

Originally Posted by Symbol-formerly Mr Helmut

I do find the term bullying quite strange.

On the internet or a forum are we not all completely equal? Every single one of us here has complete freedom to either ignore remarks, reply or step away from the keyboard. And I do actually respect in a quaint way, P1 PETs bizarre attitude.

The concept of 'internet bullying' is a difficult one to understand....unless of course the web has replaced that particular individuals reality? In which case Darwin will probably win.

Wow we agree, perhaps england merican have something in common.

[Darth Helmut]

Originally Posted by Jaghave

Wow we agree, perhaps england merican have something in common.

I doubt it.

[Jaghave]

Originally Posted by Symbol-formerly Mr Helmut

I read that as 'you get punched a lot for being a gobby nobber'.

I do but have never gone down. Just came from the dentist and had everything done with no painkillers.

[Jaghave]

Originally Posted by Symbol-formerly Mr Helmut

I doubt it.

Ah come on bud, you miss the good old desert eagle.

[Darth Helmut]

Originally Posted by Jaghave

I do but have never gone down. Just came from the dentist and had everything done with no painkillers.

Ok, you're a gobby nobber who is also just ever so slightly stupid. Fair assessment?

[Jaghave]

Originally Posted by Symbol-formerly Mr Helmut

Ok, you're a gobby nobber who is also just ever so slightly stupid. Fair assessment?

I come down with facts and all you do is come in with feelings and insults. I guess I won this battle.

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by Jaghave

I come down with facts and all you do is come in with feelings and insults. I guess I won this battle.

As I said, delusional.

[Darth Helmut]

Originally Posted by Jaghave

I come down with facts and all you do is come in with feelings and insults. I guess I won this battle.

I actually saw my remarks as an assessment of the facts presented mate.... No feelings or insults. Purely scientific.