[Cleod7]

What does sport mode + do exactly. I know it turns off DTC but are there any other changes?

[bimmer456]

depends on if you have LCI or Pre-LCI F30. Pre-LCI it just dials back the traction control and is like a track mode. LCI it is more aggressive throttle response and shifting.
It may also adjust the suspension dampening. Numerous threads on this, some of which are misleading.

[Korvo]

Tighter suspension if you have adaptive suspension.
Tighter steering if you have variable steering. Throttle becomes more responsive.
The transmission stays in gears longer keeping RPM's higher than comfort mode.
As you said, disables DSC.

[zambarossa]

For me at least, it feels for 340 w/MPSK, Sport+ also makes the exhaust slightly more louder/throatier. I've been mostly driving in Sport+ except when in cruise control.

[jh_f30]

I always thought it was the same as Sport with only DSC active (no, or less, DTC).

[Elvisfan]

Originally Posted by jh_f30

I always thought it was the same as Sport with only DSC active (no, or less, DTC).

The transmission shift points are definitely different on my car.

[bimmer456]

Originally Posted by jh_f30

I always thought it was the same as Sport with only DSC active (no, or less, DTC).

That is the case on the 335. On the 340 sport + is more aggressive than sport.

[Skyhigh]

Originally Posted by pdegene

Tighter suspension if you have adaptive suspension.
Tighter steering if you have variable steering.

The above 2 are incorrect (if you are comparing to Sport and not to Comfort). Both suspension and steering remain the same between Sport and Sport +.

Let others comment if I am wrong.

[KRS_SN]

I had never used sports+ mode before on my stock 335d . In response to the OP's post I did try sports + today and WOW!
The throttle lag is much less than the sports mode and a big smile on my face.
I haven't experimented with cornering/handling at shaprp turns as my commute this am was motorway and it is awaiting some suspension work next wk and don't want to push it until then .
Could anyone report any differences in cornering/handling etc in the 2 modes

[movietub]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

I had never used sports+ mode before on my stock 335d . In response to the OP's post I did try sports + today and WOW!
The throttle lag is much less than the sports mode and a big smile on my face.
I haven't experimented with cornering/handling at shaprp turns as my commute this am was motorway and it is awaiting some suspension work next wk and don't want to push it until then .
Could anyone report any differences in cornering/handling etc in the 2 modes

How have you never got round to trying it before lol!?

Also, here is an extra bonus for you... If you put the car in sport+ AND push the gear lever over to manual, you will get the fastest possible paddle shifts, and also some extra RPM. You do in the 330d at least, I would assume the same on the 335d.

The really weird thing is BMW say the rev limit in these cars is lower than the car allows you in sport+ manual mode.

[movietub]

Originally Posted by bimmer456

depends on if you have LCI or Pre-LCI F30. Pre-LCI it just dials back the traction control and is like a track mode. LCI it is more aggressive throttle response and shifting.
It may also adjust the suspension dampening. Numerous threads on this, some of which are misleading.

That's the same on pre lci, I have had 2.

On the diesels it also opens up another 400rpm before redline, providing you're in manual shift mode.

For the adaptive suspension, it is always 'on', in as much as it will always tighten the damping to maximum if the driving style demands it to achieve the best stability. The difference in sport/sport+ is that it doesn't relax as much in between hard cornering. It's essentially more ready, more of the time. It's very hard to detect this though as even in sport/+ it does seem to relax again below certain speeds - so it's always relaxed if you're trundling down a bumpy back road for example.

Going from a 3 series with adaptive, to a 4 without, I can say that it's very hard to appreciate what adaptive does, until you don't have it

[KRS_SN]

[QUOTE=movietub;24099630]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

I had never used sports+ mode before on my stock 335d . In response to the OP's post I did try sports + today and WOW!
The throttle lag is much less than the sports mode and a big smile on my face.
I haven't experimented with cornering/handling at shaprp turns as my commute this am was motorway and it is awaiting some suspension work next wk and don't want to push it until then .
Could anyone report any differences in cornering/handling etc in the 2 modes[n/QUOTE]

How have you never got round to trying it before lol!?

Also, here is an extra bonus for you... If you put the car in sport+ AND push the gear lever over to manual, you will get the fastest possible paddle shifts, and also some extra RPM. You do in the 330d at least, I would assume the same on the 335d.

The really weird thing is BMW say the rev limit in these cars is lower than the car allows you in sport+ manual mode.

this is my 4th bmw and i have only discovered bimmerpost recently.
i guess i was perhaps like the vast majority of people who buy a car and use it at default mode but after signing on in here i have changed!

[donkey]

Originally Posted by bimmer456

depends on if you have LCI or Pre-LCI F30. Pre-LCI it just dials back the traction control and is like a track mode. LCI it is more aggressive throttle response and shifting.
It may also adjust the suspension dampening. Numerous threads on this, some of which are misleading.

Because these changes already happened in regular sport mode (increased throttle response, variable steering, suspension, etc.) for pre LCI f30s.

[movietub]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

this is my 4th bmw and i have only discovered bimmerpost recently.
i guess i was perhaps like the vast majority of people who buy a car and use it at default mode but after signing on in here i have changed!

Well good! And as I say, take it out in manual mode sport+ and see how the revs stretch and the engine sound

[NoCrease DeQuis]

As someone with a pre-LCI f30 and a post-LCI f34, the Sport Plus makes the shifting feel much more aggressive. (the GT jerks when shifting in sport+). In my F30, which only has Sport, the car is just as fast (actually faster), but does not "feel" as aggressive when shifting.

[Korvo]

Originally Posted by Skyhigh

The above 2 are incorrect (if you are comparing to Sport and not to Comfort). Both suspension and steering remain the same between Sport and Sport +.

Let others comment if I am wrong.

I assumed he meant from comfort to sport+ but it could have just as easily been sport to sport+

[bimmer456]

Originally Posted by donkey

Because these changes already happened in regular sport mode (increased throttle response, variable steering, suspension, etc.) for pre LCI f30s.

In LCI the sport mode is also (no reason why it would be the same as comfort or it wouldn't be sport) more aggressive than comfort and sport plus is more aggressive than sport. The LCI is an improvement over pre LCI with a completely new engine (B58 vs N55) with more horsepower.

[bimmer456]

Originally Posted by movietub

That's the same on pre lci, I have had 2.

On the diesels it also opens up another 400rpm before redline, providing you're in manual shift mode.

For the adaptive suspension, it is always 'on', in as much as it will always tighten the damping to maximum if the driving style demands it to achieve the best stability. The difference in sport/sport+ is that it doesn't relax as much in between hard cornering. It's essentially more ready, more of the time. It's very hard to detect this though as even in sport/+ it does seem to relax again below certain speeds - so it's always relaxed if you're trundling down a bumpy back road for example.

Going from a 3 series with adaptive, to a 4 without, I can say that it's very hard to appreciate what adaptive does, until you don't have it

Are you comparing comfort to sport vs sport to sport plus?

[bimmer456]

Originally Posted by Skyhigh

The above 2 are incorrect (if you are comparing to Sport and not to Comfort). Both suspension and steering remain the same between Sport and Sport +.

Let others comment if I am wrong.

Suspension and steering remain the same but not throttle response and shifting. Though you can configure suspension and steering in sport.

[donkey]

Originally Posted by bimmer456

In LCI the sport mode is also (no reason why it would be the same as comfort or it wouldn't be sport) more aggressive than comfort and sport plus is more aggressive than sport. The LCI is an improvement over pre LCI with a completely new engine (B58 vs N55) with more horsepower.

Well aware buddy, you bring this up frequently

You love your LCI, that's great. We're all enthusiasts here.

[KRS_SN]

Very strange...the mpg seems to have improved in the sports+ when compared to the comfort and sport modes. Is this possible?

[egoflux]

I've just bought a 2013 335i xdrive and I can totally feel a difference between eco, comfort, and sport but I haven't really tried out sport plus yet. I want to get to know the car more before turning off all aids but the couple of times I did try it I didn't feel anything noticeable in steering or gearbox and I didn't push it on corners either