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      12-02-2019, 11:29 PM   #1
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Hey everyone,
I just wanted to bring back a video from 2012 I recently came across that reminded me of why I chose my F30 328i as the car I own today. It shows the excitement and pride of the engineers for this new engine to be, as well as scenes that show the infamous Timing Chain guides in several shots.

I know some fellow N20/N26 members have experience TC failure, and I hope it happened during warranty, warranty extension, or in some way got helped out with the repair.

But that leaves all us N20/N26 owners that are approaching high mileage in our 328's (100k+ miles) with a bit of caution and confusion as to what condition our cars are going to be in the future.
I know some of us are paranoid, but I have come to ignore the fact that the whole TC issue is even a problem, I still follow my personal maintenance schedule very thorough, but I enjoy my car with no worries. At 80k miles and still paying the loan, I drive my car and enjoy it everyday with no worries.
I will someday when my car is paid or until it's at 120-140k miles, will I consider doing the TC job and keeping this car as long as possible, as it has grown sentimental value to me, and still impresses me everyday, with how efficient and smooth the engine is even at this mileage.

What's your point of view with your F30?
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      12-03-2019, 01:18 PM   #2
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Knowing how bad the timing chain guide problem is with these cars, watching this video, with every word the engineers say, I cant help think, "wow you people really are full of shit".
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      12-04-2019, 05:04 AM   #3
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My thoughts exactly... give these people some laxative
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All the BMW videos like to highlight the great engineering they put into their engines... Yet even on their top line M sports cars, every single M engine has had some fatal engine problem - from vanos to rod bearings to crank hub issues.

Would you still trust these people to know what they're doing given the decades of engine problems they've been having?
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If you really want to keep your car long term, I wouldn't wait until 120k miles to change the TC. Once warranty up, better get it change. Finger cross the newer parts will fix this problem once and for all.

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      12-11-2019, 02:25 PM   #6
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WOW the negativity on this site! What other manufacturer makes a 4 cyl engine with this much power and smoothness...you guys should bail and buy a Honda Civic
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      12-11-2019, 05:13 PM   #7
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WOW the negativity on this site! What other manufacturer makes a 4 cyl engine with this much power and smoothness...you guys should bail and buy a Honda Civic

I don't get offended. I guess we'll never 100% know what has caused or can cause the TC failures, but I agree with you on the engine smoothness, at least my car sounds like a tractor but doesn't feel like one.
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      12-11-2019, 05:47 PM   #8
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WOW the negativity on this site! What other manufacturer makes a 4 cyl engine with this much power and smoothness...you guys should bail and buy a Honda Civic
Easy.

Mercedes with their GLA45/CLA45.

Mitsubishi EVO has done it since forever.

Ford Focus RS with their engine (after the head gasket fix update)

The engine in the new Mk 7 Golf R and Audi S3.

They're a plenty of 4 cyl engines that are better than BMW's shitty 4 cylinders.

I used to own a 2014 328xi, before trading it in for my 335i.

Best decision ever, I would have never gotten past 80k miles on the N26 before something exploding in the engine.
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Love my 328 and the N26 powering it. Very impressive engine that falls into an elite class given its award winning history.

In the last 20 years... these are the engines that Ward's has deemed worthy of their annual award.

Plan on keeping mine until at least 200k miles. Currently closing in on 84k miles with very little to no issues to speak of at all.
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      12-11-2019, 11:05 PM   #10
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WOW the negativity on this site! What other manufacturer makes a 4 cyl engine with this much power and smoothness...you guys should bail and buy a Honda Civic
Don't get us wrong. I liked the engine power and smoothness. Just that BMW should acknowledge and repair/upgrade the TC for any owner that bring it in for this issue.
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