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      09-25-2014, 12:59 PM   #67
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      09-27-2014, 12:16 PM   #71
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Great choice and nicely upgraded. Wagons are great and a rare breed nowadays.
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      09-27-2014, 01:11 PM   #72
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      09-29-2014, 01:26 AM   #73
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      09-29-2014, 03:04 PM   #74
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As with the steering.
You can not really compare a mature tech like hydraulic steering next to a first generation electric steering.
The feel of the latter, or lack of is a given, be it a bimmer or auto union.
As for your car and choices, it looks great.
Enjoy it and drive safe!
Ron,
I question your theory as well as OP's and everyone else who feels the new improved steering BMW puts in their cars is not far better than the old simple steering. Yes, I fully admit I am in the minority and I have read how all the automotive journalists seem to agree with you, but owning both an M-sport F31 with variable dynamic steering and an old E46 M3 for the last 10 years, I find the new steering far better than the old. My e46 was a high tech car back in 2004 but steers like a bus compared to my M-sport wagon. If I try to make a one-handed 90 degree turn around a corner in my M3 like I do with my F31, it just doesn't make the turn. Second, what is called "road feel", aka, feeling the steering wheel jiggle and bounce over road imperfections, doesn't actually help me navigate a twisting road. Instead it makes my E46 just feel old.

OK, I just admitted that the newer electrically controlled steering is more isolated, but it also lets me drive my wagon more confidently on a twisty road than I can with my older M3 which is still in like-new shape with only 36,000 miles on it. My M-Sport Wagon just has a tighter ratio with the dynamic steering.
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      09-29-2014, 04:52 PM   #75
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Ron,
I question your theory as well as OP's and everyone else who feels the new improved steering BMW puts in their cars is not far better than the old simple steering. Yes, I fully admit I am in the minority and I have read how all the automotive journalists seem to agree with you, but owning both an M-sport F31 with variable dynamic steering and an old E46 M3 for the last 10 years, I find the new steering far better than the old. My e46 was a high tech car back in 2004 but steers like a bus compared to my M-sport wagon. If I try to make a one-handed 90 degree turn around a corner in my M3 like I do with my F31, it just doesn't make the turn. Second, what is called "road feel", aka, feeling the steering wheel jiggle and bounce over road imperfections, doesn't actually help me navigate a twisting road. Instead it makes my E46 just feel old.

OK, I just admitted that the newer electrically controlled steering is more isolated, but it also lets me drive my wagon more confidently on a twisty road than I can with my older M3 which is still in like-new shape with only 36,000 miles on it. My M-Sport Wagon just has a tighter ratio with the dynamic steering.
You realize you can have any steering ratio you want on either system, right?

In fact, the e46 M3 has far and away the slowest rack of any of the e46s. Easily swappable if that's what you desire, but it's not like they didn't do it for a reason-- a slower rack provides greater high speed stability and allows more precise, smoother input.

If you don't like feedback, though, can't help you there. EPS is, indeed, your best bet.

That said, if I lived on long island, I probably wouldn't want feedback, either. Or an M3, for that matter....
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      09-29-2014, 05:03 PM   #76
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You realize you can have any steering ratio you want on either system, right?

In fact, the e46 M3 has far and away the slowest rack of any of the e46s. Easily swappable if that's what you desire, but it's not like they didn't do it for a reason-- a slower rack provides greater high speed stability and allows more precise, smoother input.

If you don't like feedback, though, can't help you there. EPS is, indeed, your best bet.

That said, if I lived on long island, I probably wouldn't want feedback, either. Or an M3, for that matter....
Yes, I do realize you can swap different ratios, but as you said, a mechanical system limits you to compromising for either low speed quick steering or high speed accuracy. Indeed that is why my M3 has slow steering, and that is why variable dynamic steering gives you the best of both worlds!

My M3 is fine for my twisty hilly roads of North Shore Long Island- Except after winter when there are potholes everywhere for a few months!
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      09-29-2014, 06:43 PM   #77
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Several cars ago I owned a 3 series touring. It was not fast, but it was a beautiful car. Years ago in the USA, we called these station wagons. I guess we picked up people at the rail station and needed the extra capacity for all the luggage.
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      09-29-2014, 07:07 PM   #78
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Several cars ago I owned a 3 series touring. It was not fast, but it was a beautiful car. Years ago in the USA, we called these station wagons. I guess we picked up people at the rail station and needed the extra capacity for all the luggage.
Yup. calling my car a touring here in America would get me nothing but confused looks.
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      11-15-2014, 06:37 PM   #79
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      11-16-2014, 04:54 AM   #80
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Tasteful upgrades! Congrats!
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      11-22-2014, 06:07 AM   #81
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a beautiful F31. Those BBS wheels are gorgeous on the car.

I'm not brand loyal, jumping from VW/BMW. Another hot wagon option is coming is the R Golf wagon. I know it cannot compare to the F31 but at 40-45k CDN when it does come over, it's a noticeable savings over the F31.

http://www.vwvortex.com/news/volkswa...-la-auto-show/
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      11-22-2014, 08:50 AM   #82
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Sadly for those who are looking for performance wagons, the VW Golf R Variant doesn't look like it will be coming to North America.

I'll just leave this here and won't say anymore to dilute this thread.

http://www.carscoops.com/2014/11/shu...-plans-to.html

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a beautiful F31. Those BBS wheels are gorgeous on the car.

I'm not brand loyal, jumping from VW/BMW. Another hot wagon option is coming is the R Golf wagon. I know it cannot compare to the F31 but at 40-45k CDN when it does come over, it's a noticeable savings over the F31.

http://www.vwvortex.com/news/volkswa...-la-auto-show/
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      11-24-2014, 05:02 PM   #83
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Looks great! Why did you replace the Audi?
I commute 110km a day during the work week and the Audi always required a visit to the gas station around Wed or Thurs. I'm busy enough and some days you just want to get home without stopping.

Add to that the fact that, however fuel efficient a 2L turbo 4cyl is terms of litres/100km, the fact remains that it required premium fuel which costs $0.20 more than regular gas or diesel around my parts.

After all is said and done, the 328d literally halved my fuel costs and instead of refuelling 2 times a week, I can go 1.5-2 weeks between fuel stops.

I loved my Audi's, the wagon pictured above was my 3rd one. They just don't have an AWD diesel in the A4/5 lineup in Canada. Also, they chose to abandon the sport wagon market segment.

BMW just seem to tick all the boxes by offering a 3 series diesel, sport wagon, with AWD, and with MSport
Well said buddy, the car looks fantastic!
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What suspension are you running? Looks great!
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How is this "Rare"?

Good looking car nonetheless. Congrats!
328d MSport Wagon. I'd say its rare. Atleast in America, possibly Canada.
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How is this "Rare"?

Good looking car nonetheless. Congrats!
328d MSport Wagon. I'd say its rare. Atleast in America, possibly Canada.
I didn't realize that. The day I made that comment is the same day I saw a same exact model at a local car meet.
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What suspension are you running? Looks great!
H&R Sport on OEM DHP shocks. It's the first time I've run only springs since I was in my teens LOL. I've been running coilovers for over a decade but I didn't want to loose the ability to switch from Comfort to Sport with the magnetic shocks.

Gotta say that it's not a bad setup for a daily driver. 90% of the comfort of OEM and 85% of the dampening and rebound control of coilovers when you need it.
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H&R Sport on OEM DHP shocks. It's the first time I've run only springs since I was in my teens LOL. I've been running coilovers for over a decade but I didn't want to loose the ability to switch from Comfort to Sport with the magnetic shocks.

Gotta say that it's not a bad setup for a daily driver. 90% of the comfort of OEM and 85% of the dampening and rebound control of coilovers when you need it.

Thank you sir! I am in the same boat, tired of messing with coilovers after having them on so many cars. Just want to put springs on my F31 when it gets here and be done with it.
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