[Londoner]

Originally Posted by Two-tone525

Wow. BMW recommend 0w20? That viscosity has got a tiny ambient temperature operating window compared to a 0w40 or 5w40.

If BMW are OK with it, I'd probably go with a 0w40 or 0w30 at least.

33 degree ambient temperatures in London on occasion, throw in a load of stop start traffic and you could be at the upper temperature operating window easily just pottering about.

Yip - that's what my BMW dealer (Enfield) uses, 0w20. Although you'll find some BMW dealers do differ. However you're right re operating window. I can only assume they decided 33c ambient temps in the UK are few and far between, and manufacturers MPG stats are so important of course these days. I change my oil every 8-10,000 miles so am not too fussed, but should probably change it to something thicker if I do a summer track day.

https://bmwtuning.co/bmw-b58-faq/

The recommended oil weight from BMW is 0W-20. They also recommend using an LL-14 FE+ approved fuel. However, LL14FE oils are designed with fuel economy in mind. LL01 approved oils will also work well on the B58.

[Londoner]

Originally Posted by Abzynthe

Thought I'd spruce up my mppsk lol

Man, that's a shiny back box! Mine's a bit rusty looking after only 18 months!

[winther1]

Originally Posted by Abzynthe

Thought I'd spruce up my mppsk lol

Nice and shiny! What product did you use?

[Abzynthe]

Originally Posted by Londoner

Man, that's a shiny back box! Mine's a bit rusty looking after only 18 months!

I hadn't touched mine for about three and a half years and it looked pretty dull lol.

[Abzynthe]

Originally Posted by winther1

Nice and shiny! What product did you use?

Just a DA polisher and some Autoglym metal polish.
When I jack the car up to do the wheels and callipers, I'll get the dremmel out to polish out the brown rust round the edges.

[winther1]

Originally Posted by Abzynthe

Just a DA polisher and some Autoglym metal polish.
When I jack the car up to do the wheels and callipers, I'll get the dremmel out to polish out the brown rust round the edges.

Will look mint for the 4th

[Two-tone525]

Originally Posted by Londoner

Yip - that's what my BMW dealer (Enfield) uses, 0w20. Although you'll find some BMW dealers do differ. However you're right re operating window. I can only assume they decided 33c ambient temps in the UK are few and far between, and manufacturers MPG stats are so important of course these days. I change my oil every 8-10,000 miles so am not too fussed, but should probably change it to something thicker if I do a summer track day.

https://bmwtuning.co/bmw-b58-faq/

The recommended oil weight from BMW is 0W-20. They also recommend using an LL-14 FE+ approved fuel. However, LL14FE oils are designed with fuel economy in mind. LL01 approved oils will also work well on the B58.

So by an 'approved fuel' you're talking a 'premium' unleaded for non diesel models, say Shell VPower (99 RON) or BP Ultimate (98 RON) that has a rating of E5, or E10 at a max, to ensure not too much ethanol.

I did take a look at the link, however it doesn't state manufactures of fuel, just that they should be LL-14 FE+ fuels.

When Googling LL-14 FE+ all that surfaces is approved oils, not fuel suppliers.

[Londoner]

Originally Posted by Two-tone525

So by an 'approved fuel' you're talking a 'premium' unleaded for non diesel models, say Shell VPower (99 RON) or BP Ultimate (98 RON) that has a rating of E5, or E10 at a max, to ensure not too much ethanol.

I did take a look at the link, however it doesn't state manufactures of fuel, just that they should be LL-14 FE+ fuels.

When Googling LL-14 FE+ all that surfaces is approved oils, not fuel suppliers.

Yes, I think that's just a typo - apologies. they must mean approved oil, not fuel.

[Londoner]

Originally Posted by Londoner

Yes, I think that's just a typo - apologies. they must mean approved oil, not fuel.

As for fuel, the MPPSK manual states (I'm told, the buggers didn't give me one after installation) you should use 98 Ron or above.

[winther1]

Originally Posted by Londoner

As for fuel, the MPPSK manual states (I'm told, the buggers didn't give me one after installation) you should use 98 Ron or above.

Seems to give you more pops and bangs than standard fuel, so all worth it

[Londoner]

Originally Posted by winther1

Seems to give you more pops and bangs than standard fuel, so all worth it

I did not know that!

[Alscoob]

Originally Posted by Abzynthe

It doesn't have the MPPSK fitted. The back box has an Mperformance sticker so can only be an MPE (or just a sticker)

You can see on mine the MP logo is part of the backbox

The box on the advertised car is one of these.....



which is MPE which I had on mine & they clean up nicely being stainless.

[rkbimmer]

Hi all,

Recently procured a 2017 440i with the standard double split tail pipe exhaust.

I have a couple of questions / concerns which may be valid or not:

1. When turning the car on, the main air/noise comes from the right hand side tail pipe - as seen in the first pic below, it looks more worn/corrosive than the other side - second pic attached.

2. In fact, I can hardly feel anything coming out the left hand side tail pipe when turning the car on....

Is this normal?

[ar68]

Originally Posted by rkbimmer

Hi all,

Recently procured a 2017 440i with the standard double split tail pipe exhaust.

I have a couple of questions / concerns which may be valid or not:

1. When turning the car on, the main air/noise comes from the right hand side tail pipe - as seen in the first pic below, it looks more worn/corrosive than the other side - second pic attached.

2. In fact, I can hardly feel anything coming out the left hand side tail pipe when turning the car on....

Is this normal?

Yes completely normal. The LHS is flapped and only used at certain times.
This wont matter though when you get you MPPSK fit though.

[rkbimmer]

Originally Posted by ar68

Yes completely normal. The LHS is flapped and only used at certain times.
This wont matter though when you get you MPPSK fit though.

ah thanks for the quick reply....phew glad its normal...as you can tell i'm a newbie to this car so lots to get accustomed to...

the MPPSK is a must have it seems? )£1795 with the carbon trims is a price i've seen on some dealers websites....i'd have to go dealer as still got warranty on the car.

[Alscoob]

Originally Posted by rkbimmer

ah thanks for the quick reply....phew glad its normal...as you can tell i'm a newbie to this car so lots to get accustomed to...

the MPPSK is a must have it seems? )£1795 with the carbon trims is a price i've seen on some dealers websites....i'd have to go dealer as still got warranty on the car.

MPPSK is dealer fit only as it needs coding linked to Munich

[MY340i]

Originally Posted by Two-tone525

I saw this ad this morning on Auto Trader. Not the car for me due to it having a fight with the M Sport carbon trim parts department. However, if the dealer is actually correct regarding its age, how is it possible it can have the MPPSK fitted?

"Hertford Car Specialists Is Proud To Present This Beautiful Alpine White BMW 340I Touring With Black Leather, This Vehicle Is Supplied With 2 BMW Remote Key Fobs, 12 Months MOT, BMW WARRANTY TILL FEB 2022, Very High Spec With Over 20K Worth Of Upgrades! Full Genuine BMW Carbon M Performance Kit, 20’’ 405M M Performance Alloys With Nearly New Pirelli P Zero Tyres With 8mm Tread, Heads Up Display, Heated Steering Wheel, Drive Assist Package, ICON LED Headlights, WIRELESS CHARGING, APPLE CAR PLAY ! The Most Important BMW MPerformance Power & Sound Kit MPPSK! Upgraded To 360 BHP, M Performance Exhaust And Much Much More!"

It's on a 68 plate in the ad and they list it as 2019 (68) reg. Curious. Do you think the owner chopped out the OPF? Or could it be a pre June '18 build that wasn't registered until 2019?

That said, there are no actual pictures of the MPPSK, so hard to tell what's fitted.

that has a MPE exhaust not an MPPSK.

[Deep Pan]

Agreed it has an mpe. Seen that car about a month ago from a private seller at £32k on auto trader. Seems like this dealer has bought it and slapped on another 3k.

[g9icy]

Originally Posted by Deep Pan

Agreed it has an mpe. Seen that car about a month ago from a private seller at £32k on auto trader. Seems like this dealer has bought it and slapped on another 3k.

£32k blimey! What's the mileage?

Do you think the MPPSK would add resale value to my car in a private sale?

I *will not* be selling this car to a dealer, I'm sick of getting ripped off by them.

[Deep Pan]

Its on 6k miles.

Mppsk will at least make it more desirable imo and I think more than likely add a bit to resale.

[winther1]

Originally Posted by Deep Pan

Its on 6k miles.

Mppsk will at least make it more desirable imo and I think more than likely add a bit to resale.

Private sale yes, dealer no - they don't care about mods. My dealer did not even know it had mppsk, I found out a week after buying it.
Seems like the desirability of mppsk has gone up now that ppf has ruined the fun on newer cars, so definitely go for it

[Deep Pan]

Originally Posted by winther1

Private sale yes, dealer no - they don't care about mods. My dealer did not even know it had mppsk, I found out a week after buying it.
Seems like the desirability of mppsk has gone up now that ppf has ruined the fun on newer cars, so definitely go for it

He was only asking about private sale

I totally agree regards to the opf, I would have bought the estate in question last month if it was a pre opf car and I could stick an mppsk on it.
The Opf immediately ruled it out for me which is a shame as its a nice looking car.