[mecheng77]

Hello,

How popular is the M performance package?

I've only found 2 cars currently for sale on the BMW website.

Are the features worth it? If so how easy is it to buy the options for cars without these features?

I don't like the 5 spoke rims that came with the cars that had this package? Can you get the standard rims which I think look much better. Thanks

[Blubaron79]

I say they are very worth it.

I had these options on my 2015 335, and they make the car sporty. The adaptive suspension helps, and the power kit with exhaust really makes it move and sing!

[njdangelo]

Not sure where you are located but in the states the "m performance package" is called the "track handling package" and includes the brembo sport brakes too. There are a decent number of cars that have this option but I would not call it 'popular'. It took me 9 months to find mine

[Blubaron79]

Originally Posted by njdangelo

Not sure where you are located but in the states the "m performance package" is called the "track handling package" and includes the brembo sport brakes too. There are a decent number of cars that have this option but I would not call it 'popular'. It took me 9 months to find mine

He's in Canada, so there packages are listed differently.

[Skyhigh]

To answer your questions:
All of the options are worth it, in my humble opinion.
The options listed under "M Performance Package" cannot be retrofitted
The options listed under "M Performance Package II" are in reality a single option called MPPSK. It is totally worth it but can also be retrofitted at a later stage.

Don't know about the rims, I personally like the 5-spoke rims significantly better. A matter of taste.

[Desertnate]

Packaging in different countries makes the comparisons difficult.

Personally, I would never own a BMW sedan/coupe without the M Sport package. Aesthetically, I find them better looking than the luxury/sport line models, but the added mechanical bits are the real reason.

The static M Sport suspension found on the RWD F3X cars, or the optional Adaptive M Suspension (on RWD or xDrive) is the only way to go. I find the stock suspension way too soft and floaty.

When you get into the Track Package/M Performance Packages, I think the upgraded M Performance brakes are worth it too. While the standard brakes aren't bad, I like the pedal feel and the better stopping power of the upgraded equipment.

VSS I'm pretty neutral. I don't find any modern BMW, or really any modern electric assisted steering system from any automaker, to be very good. The good news is it's responsive and accurate when in Sport/Sport+ mode.

[BWbimmer]

Originally Posted by Skyhigh

To answer your questions:
All of the options are worth it, in my humble opinion.
The options listed under "M Performance Package" cannot be retrofitted
The options listed under "M Performance Package II" are in reality a single option called MPPSK. It is totally worth it but can also be retrofitted at a later stage.

Don't know about the rims, I personally like the 5-spoke rims significantly better. A matter of taste.

All performance parts can be retrofitted apart from the MPPSK in some countries.https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...mance&_sacat=0

[Skyhigh]

In theory - even Xdrive can be retrofitted, of course. Nothing is impossible.

But please explain how you suggest retrofitting VSS, for example and link to a page where BMW offers this option for retrofit?
Same goes for all others in the "M Performance Package" above. Adaptive M suspension is also not an official retrofit option.

[mecheng77]

Thanks for the great responses.

I've read in the past the VSS feels unatural and the std steering is better. I really like the idea of the variable suspension.

What exactly are the sport brakes? Non floating or Brembo?

[Skyhigh]

Originally Posted by mecheng77

Thanks for the great responses.

I've read in the past the VSS feels unatural and the std steering is better. I really like the idea of the variable suspension.

What exactly are the sport brakes? Non floating or Brembo?

Bigger disks, blue callipers, other pads.
Basically they are exactly what the name suggests - sport brakes tolerating sport driving. Therefore also part of the "Track handling package" in the States. And officially recommended by BMW in conjunction with MPPSK.
And yes - non-floating and brembo

[BWbimmer]

Originally Posted by Skyhigh

In theory - even Xdrive can be retrofitted, of course. Nothing is impossible.

But please explain how you suggest retrofitting VSS, for example and link to a page where BMW offers this option for retrofit?
Same goes for all others in the "M Performance Package" above. Adaptive M suspension is also not an official retrofit option.

The adaptive M-Suspenision is not listed as a M-Performance part.
Nevertheless. It would require the 4 dampers and the computer.
I agree, it's not something I would consider retrofitting, there I am with you

this is why BMW offers an Performance suspension to retrofit https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=03_3994

[BWbimmer]

Originally Posted by Skyhigh

Bigger disks, blue callipers, other pads.
Basically they are exactly what the name suggests - sport brakes tolerating sport driving. Therefore also part of the "Track handling package" in the States. And officially recommended by BMW in conjunction with MPPSK.
And yes - non-floating and brembo

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=03_0108

[Skyhigh]

Originally Posted by BWbimmer

The adaptive M-Suspenision is not listed as a M-Performance part.
Nevertheless. It would require the 4 dampers and the computer.
I agree, it's not something I would consider retrofitting, there I am with you

this is why BMW offers an Performance suspension to retrofit https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=03_3994

It looks like you did not read the OP's initial post. He is not asking about the m performance parts me and you think about when we hear M Performance. He is specifically asking about the options BMW Canada has grouped into what they named "M Performance" packages listen in his first post. 😉

[Skyhigh]

Originally Posted by BWbimmer

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=03_0108

These are not the M Sport brakes he is asking about. These are the M Performance Brakes
There is a difference

[BWbimmer]

Originally Posted by Skyhigh

These are not the M Sport brakes he is asking about. These are the M Performance Brakes
There is a difference

you are right, it's the color

but I was just making sure there in another prove of a performance part retrofit

[Skyhigh]

Originally Posted by BWbimmer

you are right, it's the color

but I was just making sure there in another prove of a performance part retrofit

Not just the color, as you probably/hopefully know
And yes, there are a number of M Perf retrofit parts... just not those he asked about 😁

[BWbimmer]

Ok disk condition, you got me

[Bobo32]

Originally Posted by mecheng77

Hello,

How popular is the M performance package?

I've only found 2 cars currently for sale on the BMW website.

Are the features worth it? If so how easy is it to buy the options for cars without these features?

I don't like the 5 spoke rims that came with the cars that had this package? Can you get the standard rims which I think look much better. Thanks

Honestly, I love my M performance edition (Canadian) 335i xDrive in Estoril blue. I did buy used black rims for my winter tires.

The drive and look are a lot sportier than the non M performance edition ones. I even had people ask me if it was an M3 (obviously they weren't huge bimmer fans) but it does give it the extra sporty kick.

If you can afford the few extra dollars on it, go for it!

[BWbimmer]

Originally Posted by Bobo32

Honestly, I love my M performance edition (Canadian) 335i xDrive in Estoril blue. I did buy used black rims for my winter tires.

The drive and look are a lot sportier than the non M performance edition ones. I even had people ask me if it was an M3 (obviously they weren't huge bimmer fans) but it does give it the extra sporty kick.

If you can afford the few extra dollars on it, go for it!

Why don't you show us some pictures?

[mecheng77]

I'm assuming when the adaptive dampers eventually wear out they will cost an arm and leg? I wonder how the computer would react to non adaptive dampers in the future let's say if you put on some quality aftermarket units

[Wires]

OP, my guess the issues you are having finding the packages is the M performance II package. That I'm going to say is a lot more specialize (IE rare). You should have no issues finding the M performance base package though.

Adaptive suspension has been around forever in other models. Many on this forum have swapped out the adaptive for non-adaptive suspension for better handling, so not really an issue in the future.

I love the adaptive, and personally, it's worth the money. I wouldn't spend the extra on the MPPK kit (IE M performance II). BM3, MHD, etc will net you more power for the money, and you can get aftermarket cat-back exhaust of you are looking for the sound. Love my Active Autowerke catback. Great under load, quiet at cruise.

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by mecheng77

Thanks for the great responses.

I've read in the past the VSS feels unatural and the std steering is better. I really like the idea of the variable suspension.

What exactly are the sport brakes? Non floating or Brembo?

My 328i has M-sport package with adaptive suspension and VSS. I love them both. VSS is weird for the first couple of days because the car turns so much more in parking lot slow speed situations. Once you are used to it its awesome. At any highway speeds there is no difference at all.

I say if you can find a 3er with adaptive suspension and VSS, jump on it. You may learn to love the wheels too!

Good luck!