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      12-22-2017, 05:57 AM   #23
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Welcome to the MHD party F-series. Good times indeed coming yoandry custom mapping should be available when they go open BETA.. Where are you located?
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      12-22-2017, 08:18 AM   #24
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This is amazing. Thank you guys and gals for the hard work! Excited to hear what is in store as well for larger turbo applications!
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Does the K+DCAN cable I used for MHD on my E92 work for the F30?
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Does the K+DCAN cable I used for MHD on my E92 work for the F30?
It should. But if its one of the basic Amazon/Ebay buys or what have you. I recommend upgrading to a better Cable due to all the extra coding needed for these cars. So a Faster and more reliable cable (if not already) should be sprung for. (Bimmergeeks Pro cable or Twisted Tuning Blaze cable)
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So cool to see more options out there! Has me wanting to sell my JB4, and just do this!
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OH MAN. Cant wait to see the beta test results! Especially excited to hear more about that possible flash counter freeze

Edit: any idea if the tuning would support code disabling ? I.E turning off checks for cat efficiency so we dont throw codes with catless DPs (talking true table edit vs just repeated code clearing like the older JB4s)
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My car has an upgraded charge pipe and m performance exhaust. Would this fall under the category of stage 1+? What kind of gains would I see with the + rather than standard stage 1?
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My car has an upgraded charge pipe and m performance exhaust. Would this fall under the category of stage 1+? What kind of gains would I see with the + rather than standard stage 1?
stage 1.
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Whoa, so for n55 EWG, these numbers:

Stage 2+ (up to 430HP/630NM or roughly 464ft/lb tq) - 91oct/95ron, 93oct/98ron, 95oct/102ron, for cars equipped with an upgraded intercooler and high-flow downpipe.

Are at the CRANK (for RWD?)

Any accurate idea for at the WHEELS for x-drive?

Probably 365hp and 395tq, hey? (I just subtracted 15% from the above numbers)

I guess, x-drive is probably -20% so...344whp 370wtq?

Am I correct?
We state number at the crank, but measured here in Germany. From experience if you want a WHP Dynojet reference, substract 5% for RWD, or 10% for XDrive.

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Pure stage 2 turbo custom map estimate release.
You can already get a custom map through MHD, at Twisted tuning, Wedge performance or Pureboost (who write the OTS maps) to name a few.

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Does the K+DCAN cable I used for MHD on my E92 work for the F30?
It will work (if reliable) but flash times are 2x longer than the bimmergeeks pro cable.

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OH MAN. Cant wait to see the beta test results! Especially excited to hear more about that possible flash counter freeze

Edit: any idea if the tuning would support code disabling ? I.E turning off checks for cat efficiency so we dont throw codes with catless DPs (talking true table edit vs just repeated code clearing like the older JB4s)
Some codes can be disabled.
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Some codes can be disabled.
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So cool to see more options out there! Has me wanting to sell my JB4, and just do this!
MANY owners have gotten rid of their JB4's and gone straight flash only and loved it. Some even went as far as saying its the best thing they've ever done.

Honestly the flash only route is how these cars should be used due to all the calculations that the DME does for everything. You don't really want to alter sensor signals much on these newer vehicles and it compounds other problems.
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@mhd tuning so how would the beta work?

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I'm curious about the "flash-counter" or whatever it's called I've seen posted on other threads. Could you quickly explain what exactly that means in terms of this flash? I've seen a few posts stating you can only change maps 10 times before you need to reset the ECU with an unlock... Does that apply in this case?

2nd question: Should a car need warranty work at the dealer, flash back to stock does the dealer see the flash or does it look stock to them at that point. Does ISTA or whatever they use raise a flag to see it's been flashed prior?

3rd question: Will this work in conjunction with a JB4 and/or is there any benefit to running this with a JB4 like other flashes?

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There is no limit to the number of times you can reflash. The flash counter just keeps track of this number. Later we'll add a feature to freeze it.
By flashing back to stock you flash the exact same state as you would at a dealership. That said, whatever the tunes (piggybacks included), if BMW really want to dig, then can (in Munich).
We prefer flash only tunes. Terry is likely to develop his own backend MHD flash maps for the jb4.

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Will the ActiveHybrid3 be supported?
Not sure at this point. Maybe if it shares the same rom as other N55 I need to check but I doubt it.
This is a slightly different answer to the other threads which claim the DME will be permanently bricked and require replacement once the counter reaches its limit.

Great news if unlimited flashing is true.

Intriguing if nothing else. Subscribed for more info.
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xdrive have a little more drivetrain loss indeed. We always state crank HP as measured here in Germany. Dynojet equivalent are around 5% lower than that (but not 15%).
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And you said that xdrive is about 10% lower
So let me try to get it straight:

N55 EWG* (Vehicles built after 07/2013 with electronic wastegate):
•Stage 1 (up to 360HP/540NM) - 91oct/95ron, 93oct/98ron, 95oct/102ron, for stock cars. (not available for M2 and X4 M40i) =324awhp/486nm for xdrive?
•Stage 2 (up to 390HP/580NM) - 91oct/95ron, 93oct/98ron, 95oct/102ron, for cars equipped with an upgraded intercooler or high-flow downpipe. =351awhp/522NM for xdrive?
•Stage 2+ (up to 430HP/630NM) - 91oct/95ron, 93oct/98ron, 95oct/102ron, for cars equipped with an upgraded intercooler and high-flow downpipe. =387awhp/567NM for xdrive?
•Ethanol Mix Maps: Stage 1, 2 and 2+ E20 Maps for ethanol blends of 20% (in development)
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why are folks so numbers obsessed...?

oh ya...cause f30s are racecarz....

flash tunes aren't about sheer powar...

jb4 make the same numbers within 5-10hp...

it's about driveability, simplicity and reliability...
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What you need:
  • Android device, OTG compatible with Android OS 3.2 and higher.
  • BimmerGeeks ProCable (K+DCan cable).
Wow! For us non-Android folks, can you explain what OTG Compatible means?

And would an Android phone work as a flasher? Or must be a tablet?

Lastly, do we need to know if we have an EWG or PWG, or the software figures it out when flashing?
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Wow! For us non-Android folks, can you explain what OTG Compatible means?

And would an Android phone work as a flasher? Or must be a tablet?

Lastly, do we need to know if we have an EWG or PWG, or the software figures it out when flashing?
Sorry I hate seeing "that guy" reply to posts like im about to... but I have to.

Those three questions can all be answered by a google search.

I literally found question #1 by searching OTG compatible.

I know I could've just answered each of your questions and not wasted about 1 minute typing this, but I'm bored.
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Wow! For us non-Android folks, can you explain what OTG Compatible means?

And would an Android phone work as a flasher? Or must be a tablet?

Lastly, do we need to know if we have an EWG or PWG, or the software figures it out when flashing?
copy and paste for the OTG: USB On-The-Go, often abbreviated to USB OTG or just OTG, is a specification first used in late 2001 that allows USB devices, such as tablets or smartphones, to act as a host, allowing other USB devices, such as USB flash drives, digital cameras, mice or keyboards, to be attached to them.

I personally use a phone for my cars and customer cars. Mainly because i feel tablets are bulky. But either or will work.

Software will figure out which it is by the software ID
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why are folks so numbers obsessed...?

oh ya...cause f30s are racecarz....

flash tunes aren't about sheer powar...

jb4 make the same numbers within 5-10hp...

it's about driveability, simplicity and reliability...

Not sure if im missing the '/sarcasm' but you are correct, flash tunes arent about sheer power, they are about adapting the car to the environment and modifications leveraging existing hardware and sensors accurately.

JB4, while a fantastic mod, is actually fooling the cars sensors. Depending on your school of thought, some would rather have the sensors and DME work in harmony and trust the values are accurate vs spoofing what the sensor truly sees and what is sent to the DME.

But hey, at the end of the day, thats what is great about all the dev work going on lately, it gives us all options
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Will MHD also provide an Editor for the public, like BM3 has, for the end user if they feel confident to edit the tables themselves?
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