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      06-15-2019, 10:39 AM   #1
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B58 Oil

Just had a warranty oil change on my 440 with a B58. Document says that they used LL-01 and 0W-30. My understand is that they were supposed to use LL-14 and 0W-20. Verified this with another dealer. I live in the northeast, should I be concerned? If so should I demand a fill and flush ASAP

EDIT: when the technician fills the oil, do they use BMW 1qt containers or bulk oil? Trying to see if there is a way to tell which oil they used

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Just had a warranty oil change on my 440 with a B58. Document says that they used LL-01 and 0W-30. My understand is that they were supposed to use LL-14 and 0W-20. Verified this with another dealer. I live in the northeast, should I be concerned? If so should I demand a fill and flush ASAP
You are correct. I decided to change my oil at 2100 miles to get the starter oil out. I bought an oil change kit from ECS and it came with 0W-20 LL-01 BMW Twin Power oil.
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I personally wouldn't worry too much about it. The recommended LL-14 changed from the earlier LL-01 mostly for fuel economy reasons. AFAIK it's still based upon an ACEA A3/B3-4 oil.
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I placed a call to BMW. They are stating to use 0W-30 or 0W-20 with LL-01 FE specs
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I just had a Maintenance Program oil service last week. Oil used by local dealer was 0W-30. I would not worry about it at all.
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This is all very interesting since it should be taking SAE 0W-20 per the manual. Even if you order the kit from ECS, the default oil is 0W-20.
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This is all very interesting since it should be taking SAE 0W-20 per the manual. Even if you order the kit from ECS, the default oil is 0W-20.
thats what I recall hearing and reading. meant to look inside the hood this morning and didnt.
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It's just kind of shitty that an actual BMW dealership is not going by the books and putting the right oil in the car.
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It's just kind of shitty that an actual BMW dealership is not going by the books and putting the right oil in the car.
i agree. Where is BMW corp reading the 0w-20 and 0w-30 LL-01 FE spec?
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i agree. Where is BMW corp reading the 0w-20 and 0w-30 LL-01 FE spec?
I think the 0W-20 replaced the 0W-30 for LCI 340i models. Maybe dealers are just using up the old 0W-30?
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I think the 0W-20 replaced the 0W-30 for LCI 340i models. Maybe dealers are just using up the old 0W-30?
call up BMW corp and ask them
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I'm not taking time out of my day to call up BMWNA. However, I WILL require 0W-20 oil when I get my first maintenance at 10K.
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Dealerships often have generic oil change codes. Hopefully they used the proper oil.
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I'm not taking time out of my day to call up BMWNA. However, I WILL require 0W-20 oil when I get my first maintenance at 10K.
Owners manual actually now state 0w-20 or 0w-30 and LL-01 and LL-14 . Sticker on hood says 0w-20
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Owners manual actually now state 0w-20 or 0w-30 and LL-01 and LL-14 . Sticker on hood says 0w-20
I get it, but if I am already running 0W-20, then I don't want 0W-30 in (but it probably won't make a difference).

I'm just picky with my car.
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