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No, I'm still on the stock turbo and fuel pump unfortunately, just a basic Stage 2 setup (every mod in my signature). Waiting a bit for the turbo upgrade... I just know that from talking with people that have done it on here.
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Ok, gotcha. I would assume a larger turbo would allow you to spool quicker, sustain a longer spool, and create more power with the correct tune? Now I know the 300HP range is the "danger zone" for the n20/n26 but I heard roomers of a car in Brazil that's successfully pushing 380hp with stock internals.
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300whp is safe on stock internals, I'd even be comfortable up to 320whp but not much more than that. D041987 can tell you all about the limits of the internals though, better than I'll be able to.
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The only way an aftermarket part can affect your warranty is if the dealer can prove that the aftermarket part caused the failure of whatever you're making a warranty claim on.
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To be clear, if you slap on a big turbo, and a suspension part fails...then this would apply 100%. However, if you throw a rod? Better believe BMW isn't going to take a $20k hit for fear of Magnuson-Moss rebuttals.
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there's no way to say that my downpipe led to the failure of my control arms - And I 100% agree. However, that is outside of the context in which we are referencing. JD's comment was about an engine modification, and while maybe he was worried about his airbag warranty with his comment "because of the preservation of the warranty", I doubt that's what he is concerned would be jeopardized. And I suppose there is a level of semantics here. I am referring to a scenario where he installs the Dinan tune, engine grenades and he goes into BMW waving his CPO warranty. They then pull some logs and see out of threshold boost levels etc. They then deny his warranty claim. His options are 1: eat the loss. 2: Continue to badger them and hope they budge( call BMW etc etc). Or 3: take them to court. I recall Dinan being "approved" by BMW so I am not sure of the technicalities there. I am speaking in general of any engine modification. The moral of the story (at least from my perspective) is, if you do any engine modifications and you encounter a SA that is not mod friendly, you will be facing an uphill battle. Is it possible that they warranty it? Sure. Is it likely that you will win a lawsuit against them for denying a warranty claim on a modified engine? Probably not. It's your money, take the risk if you feel comfortable. But the odds are against you and I'm not much of a gambling man. It certainly isn't black and white.
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Thanks for the info, guys
I have some experience in service departments, actually was a SA for years (Not for BMW, I worked mostly for Toyota, Mopar, and VW). So I still have some understanding of warranty repair procedures, however each manufacturer is different, as are the products they sell and service. There's so much info out there, and while I'm sure I would be attentive enough not to brick my own motor because of the tune, if it happens to fail anyway for whatever reason (or the tranny for that matter, or the turbo etc.) I'm afraid they wouldn't cover it under the CPO because "AFTERMARKET MODS!" I KNOW Toyota wouldn't do that, BMW I'm not so sure. That's why Dinan attracts me. I mean, isn't the point of spending 1600 bucks on a piggyback, that it's "BMW approved" and therefore warranty copo? That's kind of what I'm asking. |
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Yah they make some cool all-together packages. Plus you get to flex the Dinan badge if you get one lol. Also, made a slight edit to my above post. They offer Dinantronics sport tunes which are effectively boost controllers that do not carry the same warranty as their full piggybacks or pretty much all other products. That's their only product that doesn't carry the warranty as far as I know, just wanted to point that out for thoroughness' sake
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example, if your car is 2015, you'd have to get Dinan Stage 1 installed at an authorized Dinan dealer and Dinan warranty will cover until the end of the month in 2019, of the original purchase date of the car, unless you've already exceeded 50K miles. plus 2 years from the original purchase date of the Dinan product, so 2020 of the original purchase month of your vehicle, if purchased this today? not sure. not sure what is stated in the fine print of your CPO warranty but I would assume CPO warranty will not cover if aftermarket mods are done, incl. Dinan. At best, if your CPO was obtained from an authorized Dinan dealership maybe something was written in the warranty regarding Dinan modifications, but i doubt it. you'll have to read the fine print... lastly, if a Dinan warranty claim is made, all your i's and t's had better be dotted and crossed as i bet it's not as easy as you're led to believe. https://www.dinancars.com/warranty/ Last edited by alohasurftoad; 12-08-2018 at 12:45 PM.. |
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As for the rest...dammit. Guess I should call Dinan and my BMW dealer and get the scoop before I do anything. Again, thanks for the info guys. |
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Might be a good idea. Sorry for misinforming you a bit!
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How many hours to switch out the turbo? I'm thinking of going with the MHI turbo kit soon. Any other recommendations of parts or gaskets you would change out during the switch out?
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