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Jayf30 · 01-11-2019, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by j1980mac

It's an absolute monster!

372 WHP 501 WTQ!

GT500R · 01-11-2019, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by j1980mac

It's an absolute monster!

372 WHP 501 WTQ!

ME: Loads Stage 2 Tune... wow this thing is fast!

MP: Oh btw we now have a new tune and trans tune out...

ME: Loads Stage 3 Tune | Stage 1 Trans Tune and see's dyno numbers.

G.Newt · 01-11-2019, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by j1980mac

It's an absolute monster!

372 WHP 501 WTQ!

Must be nice getting 93 octane at sea level. Can't wait to move back to Austin and run this tune lol.

j1980mac · 01-11-2019, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by G.Newt

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Originally Posted by j1980mac

It's an absolute monster!

372 WHP 501 WTQ!

Must be nice getting 93 octane at sea level. Can't wait to move back to Austin and run this tune lol.

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Originally Posted by G.Newt

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Originally Posted by j1980mac

It's an absolute monster!

372 WHP 501 WTQ!

Must be nice getting 93 octane at sea level. Can't wait to move back to Austin and run this tune lol.

Shell 93, 735 ft altitude.

rahlow · 01-11-2019, 03:06 PM

That is alot of torque. On AWD that's probably a murderous 60 foot and 1/8 mile. For me, I need to get those new tires simultaneously to getting the stage 3 and trans tune (not sure which trans tune I want yet stage 1 or 2) cause i have a 340i. any suggestions?

GT500R · 01-11-2019, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rahlow

That is alot of torque. On AWD that's probably a murderous 60 foot and 1/8 mile. For me, I need to get those new tires simultaneously to getting the stage 3 and trans tune (not sure which trans tune I want yet stage 1 or 2) cause i have a 340i. any suggestions?

Alex said AWD vehicles should stick with Stage 1 for driveline peace of mind.

The Stage 2 is more set up for RWD vehicles.

(I asked this same question yesterday)

dereksM3 · 01-11-2019, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by j1980mac

It's an absolute monster!

372 WHP 501 WTQ!

Whats the graph look like, more topend?

j1980mac · 01-11-2019, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dereksM3

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Originally Posted by j1980mac

It's an absolute monster!

372 WHP 501 WTQ!

Whats the graph look like, more topend?

Should be getting it later today.

StockLOL · 01-11-2019, 04:27 PM

😮 372/501!?!? Would love to see a RWD 40i Stage 3 on a dyno jet now! Please someone run theirs!

eksigned · 01-11-2019, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by j1980mac

It's an absolute monster!

372 WHP 501 WTQ!

From Stage 2 to Stage 3 is an increase of 70 WTQ & 13 WHP!

I'm a little confused. There's a Stage 3?

j1980mac · 01-11-2019, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eksigned

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Originally Posted by j1980mac

It's an absolute monster!

372 WHP 501 WTQ!

From Stage 2 to Stage 3 is an increase of 70 WTQ & 13 WHP!

I'm a little confused. There's a Stage 3?

Yes. You'll have to ask Alex about it. I don't think it's technically "out".

TreDirtyFive · 01-11-2019, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by j1980mac

It's an absolute monster!

372 WHP 501 WTQ!

From Stage 2 to Stage 3 is an increase of 70 WTQ & 13 WHP!

Hell Yeah! Don't forget that Mustang/Clayton Dynos are usually called" heartbreakers" because their numbers are generally lower than equivalent and forum-industry norm dynojets. Also, there is higher drive train loss for 4WD cars so the flywheel power is +++

I know there is major variance between dynos but I can see this thing easily putting down 400whp/530wtrq on a dynojet.

Araemo · 01-12-2019, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by B58togo

X-Drive is great for hard launches, but in reality, in 29K, I've run maybe three people off a light. I'll take the lighter weight, lower complexity, lower parasitic power loss over the 2/10 second advantage to sixty every time. Not to mention, my inner hooligan needs to be able to get sideways from time to time, and it's still fun to mat it at 50 mph and glance in the mirror and see a couple strips on the blacktop.

Lower weight is real, and it is more complex, but the parasitic loss is lower than you think, because x-drive is not a center diff, it's not a full-time all-wheel-drive system, it's a part-time system that only transfers power to the front wheels when it's needed.

And with ESC off, you can definitely still get the rear to come around when you want to.

j1980mac · 01-12-2019, 09:22 AM

Stage 3 Correction: it looks like the originally posted 372 HP and 501 TQ are simulated crank numbers. Kind of a bummer... I'm feeling the Mustang heartbreak!

But that's ok, because it's really putting down 360 WHP & 441 WTQ on Stage 3. Still pretty good!

This still begs the question of my true wheel power numbers on Stage 2. I'll be able to share that next week when they look it up for me.

B58togo · 01-12-2019, 10:38 AM

However they're "simulating" it is quite flawed, since 360 whp is going to be much higher than 372 at the crank. Regardless, 360 on a Mustang is likely about 400 SAE on a Dynojet, so that's great.

I'd still like to see a RWD Stage 3/TCU flash/catless DP on a Dynojet. I'm hoping for maybe 415-420 SAE.

eksigned · 01-12-2019, 05:17 PM

Does anyone really understand what Alex is doing to the trans to get these numbers? I actually tried calling him, but he wasn't too thrilled at the idea of sharing what it is that he was doing in terms of software. I get it, but I'd like to know what he's doing to my car before I purchase? lol

PS We just did a road trip over the holidays and put roughly 3000 miles on the car from SoCal up to WA. The car did a respectable 28 MPG there and back, with a bit of fun time in between. Pretty impressed!

PSS CA 91 is awful.

GT500R · 01-12-2019, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by eksigned

Does anyone really understand what Alex is doing to the trans to get these numbers? I actually tried calling him, but he wasn't too thrilled at the idea of sharing what it is that he was doing in terms of software. I get it, but I'd like to know what he's doing to my car before I purchase? lol

PS We just did a road trip over the holidays and put roughly 3000 miles on the car from SoCal up to WA. The car did a respectable 28 MPG there and back, with a bit of fun time in between. Pretty impressed!

PSS CA 91 is awful.

Simple terms : raising torque limitations. Trans has torque limitations from the factory and Stage 2 is able to hit these limits. If you raise them safety you can hit higher numbers.

228 · 01-12-2019, 07:17 PM

360whp is pretty disappointing

j1980mac · 01-12-2019, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 228

360whp is pretty disappointing

Lol I guess it's disappointing compared to 372 WHP. I'm assuming xdrive kills some power from hitting the ground even with DSC off.

But 360 WHP on a Mustang Dyno is pretty awesome to me.

GT500R · 01-12-2019, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by j1980mac

Lol I guess it's disappointing compared to 372 WHP. I'm assuming xdrive kills some power from hitting the ground even with DSC off.

But 360 WHP on a Mustang Dyno is pretty awesome to me.

Was this the same dyno as last time? Also what gear were the runs in?

I think the Stage 2 runs were 359whp/431wtq last time.

j1980mac · 01-12-2019, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GT500R

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Originally Posted by j1980mac

Lol I guess it's disappointing compared to 372 WHP. I'm assuming xdrive kills some power from hitting the ground even with DSC off.

But 360 WHP on a Mustang Dyno is pretty awesome to me.

Was this the same dyno as last time? Also what gear were the runs in?

I think the Stage 2 runs were 359whp/431wtq last time.

Yes, same dyno, 4th gear. I need to get the previous wheel runs. Apparently I'm finding out that 359 HP and 431 TQ were actually crank numbers as well. Yes that run was on Stage 2 with the DP.

GT500R · 01-12-2019, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by j1980mac

Yes, same dyno, 4th gear. I need to get the previous wheel runs. Apparently I'm finding out that 359 HP and 431 TQ were actually crank numbers as well. Yes that run was on Stage 2 with the DP.

Well if 359 is crank then the tune only gave 4 hp over stock?! I think something is amiss...

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rahlow Private First Class 62 Rep 113 Posts Drives: 2016 340i Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: MD iTrader: (0)	That is alot of torque. On AWD that's probably a murderous 60 foot and 1/8 mile. For me, I need to get those new tires simultaneously to getting the stage 3 and trans tune (not sure which trans tune I want yet stage 1 or 2) cause i have a 340i. any suggestions?
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j1980mac Captain 263 Rep 964 Posts Drives: 2018 X3 M40i Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Austin TX iTrader: (0)	Stage 3 Correction: it looks like the originally posted 372 HP and 501 TQ are simulated crank numbers. Kind of a bummer... I'm feeling the Mustang heartbreak! But that's ok, because it's really putting down 360 WHP & 441 WTQ on Stage 3. Still pretty good! This still begs the question of my true wheel power numbers on Stage 2. I'll be able to share that next week when they look it up for me. Attached Images
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B58togo Major 809 Rep 1,369 Posts Drives: M240i Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	However they're "simulating" it is quite flawed, since 360 whp is going to be much higher than 372 at the crank. Regardless, 360 on a Mustang is likely about 400 SAE on a Dynojet, so that's great. I'd still like to see a RWD Stage 3/TCU flash/catless DP on a Dynojet. I'm hoping for maybe 415-420 SAE. __________________ 2017 M240i/ ZF8 Pure Drivetrain Solutions Stage 1 & torque converter/xHP/ DAW Ultra Flow/ DS2/ Nostrum injectors/ E40 Doug Newton tuned/ ER DP/ Remus axle back/ BMS intake/ FTP CP/ M Perf LSD
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eksigned Lieutenant 139 Rep 467 Posts Drives: 4er Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: WA iTrader: (0)	Does anyone really understand what Alex is doing to the trans to get these numbers? I actually tried calling him, but he wasn't too thrilled at the idea of sharing what it is that he was doing in terms of software. I get it, but I'd like to know what he's doing to my car before I purchase? lol PS We just did a road trip over the holidays and put roughly 3000 miles on the car from SoCal up to WA. The car did a respectable 28 MPG there and back, with a bit of fun time in between. Pretty impressed! PSS CA 91 is awful.
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