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      12-12-2019, 09:58 PM   #265
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I'm at 128k on my 2013 F30 328i N26. Original chain and guides. I'm not really worried about it breaking in the motor. But worried enough that there should be a recall on the chain and guides for peace of mind.
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From the telephone conference today, 2/3/20 will be the settlement date. Should be interesting to see. I am going to call the court to see if this is a public hearing. Knew it wouldn't make it to a Jury trial!

Full docket text for document 58:
TEXT ORDER: The Court will hold an In-Person Settlement Conference on 2/3/20 at 11am in Courtroom 4D. All persons, including trial counsel and clients with settlement authority, must be present. Parties are also required to submit a five (5) page confidential settlement memorandum to chambers via email to CLW_Orders@njd.uscourts.gov at least five (5) business days prior to conference. So Ordered by Magistrate Judge Cathy L. Waldor on 12/12/19. (tjg, )
Glad to hear that it will be resolved soon. My warranty is expiring January 2, 2020. Took it in to the dealer and they won't fix it/said all is fine. Volkswagen/Audi had a Timing Chain problem for cars made between 2008-2014, and a class action resulted in 10year/100,000mile warranty and tiered coverage for blown motors. But hopefully this will end with a better result such as a recall.

Is there anything I can do at this point? I tried contacting the Law Firm but they did not respond.
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      12-16-2019, 05:48 AM   #268
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what the best brand for charge pipe replacement????
ER Chargepipe, VSRF is junk.
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Glad to hear that it will be resolved soon. My warranty is expiring January 2, 2020. Took it in to the dealer and they won't fix it/said all is fine. Is there anything I can do at this point? I tried contacting the Law Firm but they did not respond.
Try another dealer. What you can do is wait and see what the outcome will be. A recall will put everyone at ease. A longer warranty (for example, 10 year/125k mile) would be great but every n20/n26 owner who’s motor was built before 03/2015 will be wondering when their TC/guides will break. Wondering if they do a recall, will they also increase the year/miles to be eligible or will it be all n20/n26’s regardless of miles?

ECS Tuning and FCP Euro sell kits but not sure if their kits include the VCG and the OPG (oil pan gasket).
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      12-16-2019, 08:14 AM   #270
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Anyone know of a way to visually confirm the updated timing hardware?
IMHO no - because the plastic used can be white/yellow/cream colored upon observation. Many people are convinced the new improved stuff is white, but honestly a ton of BMW timing chain guides/plastic were white (except for the old old brown stuff) and it all turns yellow/cream when exposed to oil and heat. So, in short, no.
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Exclamation Could this noise be the timing chain?

I have a 2014 328i Xdrive. 77,000 miles on it and it just randomly started to haw this awful noise. I immediately stopped driving it and Iím taking into my mechanic tomorrow but any insight you guys have would be greatly appreciated. Iím worried sick right now.
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Wow that sounds bad. I wouldnít even start it again until itís in a shop.

Keep us posted.
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Wow that sounds bad. I wouldnít even start it again until itís in a shop.

Keep us posted.
Any ideas what it could be? I have an extended warranty that covers the entire motor but Iím just wondering what the heck it could be?
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Open the oil fill cap and check timing chain for play or broken timing chain guides? Rod bearings? Doesn't sound very good for sure. Oil change intervals?
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      12-17-2019, 12:19 AM   #275
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I'd wager to guess its the TC slapping the guides since its not perfectly rythmic with the engine. do not drive it anymore than you absolutely have to.
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General rule of thumb, any N20/26. Do not get with miles closest to 70k. That's where most of them fail at. I'm at 127k and going with same chain and guides. I'm also starting to hear that the new chain and guides (although much rare) a report of an x3 believe had the new chain and guides fail at like 35k I believe.
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I have an extended warranty that covers the entire motor
Be glad you have a warranty so no need to worry. As for the noise, doesnít sound good but as everyone has mentioned, get back to us after your mechanic looks at it. If the engine is in need of replacing, see if your mechanic can score a 2016 N20 to avoid any issues.
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I have a 2014 328i Xdrive. 77,000 miles on it and it just randomly started to haw this awful noise. I immediately stopped driving it and Iím taking into my mechanic tomorrow but any insight you guys have would be greatly appreciated. Iím worried sick right now.
https://youtu.be/FqPkrDpLddU
https://youtu.be/PECK5Uil2lg
https://youtu.be/fvT7v57JL9Y
https://youtu.be/0yQo9sj_qMk
I would not drive this and just tow to a mechanic. Hopefully your engine is salvageable.
I'm getting uneasy with my wife car, a 320 MY2014.
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From the telephone conference today, 2/3/20 will be the settlement date. Should be interesting to see. I am going to call the court to see if this is a public hearing. Knew it wouldn't make it to a Jury trial!

Full docket text for document 58:
TEXT ORDER: The Court will hold an In-Person Settlement Conference on 2/3/20 at 11am in Courtroom 4D. All persons, including trial counsel and clients with settlement authority, must be present. Parties are also required to submit a five (5) page confidential settlement memorandum to chambers via email to CLW_Orders@njd.uscourts.gov at least five (5) business days prior to conference. So Ordered by Magistrate Judge Cathy L. Waldor on 12/12/19. (tjg, )

How this decision is taking so long?
What is the defense line holding BMW this far in court?
It is obvious they have a unreliable mechanism that when fails (quite high incidence) the whole engine is dead lost. Poor and irresponsible design.
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How this decision is taking so long?
What is the defense line holding BMW this far in court?
It is obvious they have a unreliable mechanism that when fails (quite high incidence) the whole engine is dead lost. Poor and irresponsible design.
Due legal process and good lawyers. Mostly legal process. Any class action usually takes at least this long, if not longer unfortunately.
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This engine is known to have timing chain issues. Eco pro may make the problem worse as you are using ASS all the time. Better to use comfort and have ASS coded to remember last setting and to leave it off. Extended warranty or recall is the best option.
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This engine is known to have timing chain issues. Eco pro may make the problem worse as you are using ASS all the time. Better to use comfort and have ASS coded to remember last setting and to leave it off. Extended warranty or recall is the best option.
Iíve always thought that using Eco Pro in stop and go driving wasnít good for the engine but Iíll use it on the highway at times if the speed limit is around 55 so Iíll cruise near 65. IDK, I could be wrong.

I never use ASS and itís always coded off whenever I fire up the car. And Iím hoping for a recall as I want others to benefit from what my dealer did for me.
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I don't think eco pro is an issue at all - ASS is not ideal - I have mine coded off
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I don't think eco pro is an issue at all - ASS is not ideal - I have mine coded off
Car runs hotter in eco pro
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Murphy's law..

my N26 let go at 26K and not related to the TC. Engine has 6K on it now. I doubt I'll have it long enough to know if it gets to 100K on the replacement engine lol. That new Corvette has my name all over it.....
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