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Andream MMI Box - Wireless CarPlay & Android Auto

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This thread is intended to consolidate all available information on the chinese 'Andream' MMI Box.


Table of contents
  • FAQ & General information - down below
  • Pictures - 2nd post
  • Software updates - 3rd post
  • Research (Manufacturer, PCB, ...) - 4th post


FAQ
  • What is it?

    It is a small Multi Media Interface (MMI) box that will retrofit the following features to your BMW:
    • Apple CarPlay (wired and wireless)
    • Android Auto (wired and wireless)
    • Apple AirPlay
    • Screen Mirroring (wired) with Autolink
    • Displaying 3rd party aftermarket camera video signals
    • Basic USB playback from e.g. a thumb drive

    The box uses the OEM mic and supports Siri and Google Assistant either via voice keyword ('Hey Siri' / 'Okay Google') or by long-pressing the steering wheel voice button.
  • How does it work?

    The MMI box essentially acts as an intermediary between your original headunit and display. While the box is inactive, the original video signal is passed through unchanged and your car works as before.
    After activating the MMI box, the box's video signal is shown on the display instead.
    You can easily switch back and forth between the box and your original headunit. Using the MMI box is optional and should be seen as an add-on and not as a replacement.
  • Is my car supported?

    All cars roughly from 2013-2016 with 'NBT', 'NBT EVO' (ID4), 'ENTRY' and 'ENTRYNAV' headunits are supported.
    Important: 'NBT EVO' (ID5/ID6) is not supported.

    The official list from Andream is as follows:
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    1 Series F20/F21 (2011-2017) requires a screen
    2 Series F23 Convertible (2013-2016) Original NBT System
    2 Series F22/F45 MPV (2013-2016) original NBT system
    3 Series F30/F31/F34 (2013-2016)
    4 Series F32/F33/F36 (2013-2016) original NBT system
    5 Series F10/F11 (2013-2016) original NBT system
    5 Series F07 GT (2013-2017) original NBT system
    7 Series F01 F02 (2013-2015) original NBT system
    
    X1 F48 (2016-2017) original NBT system
    X3 F25 (2014-2016)
    X4 F26 (2014-2016) original NBT system
    X5/X6 F15 (2014-2016) original NBT system
    MINI  F56   2013 -2016   6.5"
    MINI  F56   2013 -2016   8.8"
  • What does it cost?

    Prices vary depending from where and when you buy, but usually around 240$.
  • Are there alternatives?

    There is an identical unit from Korean company IndiWork here for 315$. Their model number is 'SCB-NBT' but the software is identical, so the units truly are the same.
    The same unit with slightly different software (some graphics are changed) is sold by Carlinkit.

    There is a similar but different unit from JoyeAuto here that even supports CIC for ~415$.
    It has wireless CarPlay and wired Android Auto support but it is unknown if AA also works wireless.
    Note that this unit cannot use the car's microphone and requires an external mic (might result in poor audio, depends on the mic).
    Link to thread: https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1622013

    BimmerTech is selling their MMI Prime box for 649$.
    While the price tag is high-end, the unit is actually identical to the ones sold by Andream, IndiWork and Carlinkit. The software of all of them can be used interchangeably on all units with no difference in features, only a few main menu graphics/icons are changed.
    Link to thread: https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1615794

    Unique-AD UK is selling a unit that claims to support both wireless CarPlay and Android Auto for ~610$. Only works for NBT or similar HUs and not with CIC.
    It has a 3.5mm microphone input so it's highly likely that it requires an external mic and does not use the OEM mic.
    Link to thread: https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1597999
  • Does it use internal AUX for sound?

    Yes, the box (not the phone!) uses the AUX Front-in (this is not the armrest input) from the original headunit. There really is no other way to get sound in and that's why all units on the market use that exact method.
    The sound quality itself is definitely comparable to OEM. But bear in mind that this also depends on your car's setup (speakers) and that audio in general is perceived highly subjectively.
    Good to know: The box includes an 8-band equalizer to adjust the sound.
    Again: You do not need to plug in your phone to AUX. The box itself is connected via AUX internally over the quadlock cable. The sound from the phone is transferred either wireless or wired e.g. via CarPlay or Android Auto.


Installation

Installation is the same for all aftermarket units like this (e.g. the 10.25" android 9 displays).
The basic idea:
  1. Disconnect the big 'Quadlock'-cable from the original headunit
  2. Connect the box's Y-harness to that cable. The new quadlock goes into the headunit, the small power cable into the MMI box itself
  3. Disconnect the LVDS cable from your original display and plug it in the box's 'LVDS in' connector
  4. Connect the 2nd LVDS cable to 'LVDS out' and plug that into the display instead
Important for step 2: If your original quadlock has a green 2-pin optical cable, you need to transfer that over to the new quadlock plug or otherwise you will not have any sound. If your quadlock does not have this cable, don't worry, in that case you don't have to do anything.

Quadlock and 2-pin cable:
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Video guides

From YT 'BMW DIY Guy' for BimmerTech's MMI v1:
From YT 'Grind My Gears' for BimmerTech's MMI Prime:

Official BimmerTech Prime installation video:

Configuration

The main configuration is done on the box itself using 'dip switches':
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Official instructions from Andream:
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Explanation:
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1 Display track overlay on 3rd party cameras (unconfirmed), ON=disabled
2 360° camera, ON=disabled
3/4/5 depends on your car, for 6.5" or 8.8"/10.25"
6 unknown
7 OFF = 3rd party camera, ON = OEM camera (does not seem to have any effect)
8 OFF = OEM mic, ON = 3rd party mic (always choose off, there is no 3.5mm in anyway)
Everything else is configured on a software level after installation.

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The unit itself (main menu, settings, etc), CarPlay and Android Auto.

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Apple CarPlay

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Android Auto

Disclaimer: Resolution is a tiny bit 'stretched' due to slightly wrong DPI value used by the box. This is software related and might be fixed in a future update.
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Screen Mirroring

For Android phones with an app called Autolink.

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Software Updates

For models / vendors:
  • Andream (EW-BMCP-NBT01A)
  • IndiWork.co.kr (SCB-NBT)
  • Carlinkit
  • Bimmertech's MMI Prime

Update instructions
  1. Format a USB flash drive with FAT32
  2. Unzip the archive, then copy the upgrade file 'ISPBOOOT.BIN' into the root directory of the USB flash drive
  3. Insert the USB flash drive into the MMI's USB port
  4. Start the car and switch to the MMI
  5. Navigate to 'Setup' -> 'Software Update' -> 'System Update'
  6. Confirm the popup
  7. The upgrade takes ~1min. Do not power off the unit (i.e. don't turn off the car).
  8. After the upgrade is completed the original iDrive will be shown

Downloads

Available software and download links:
Andream (should work with IndiWork & Road Top as well)
Carlinkit
  • MCU 20.1.4 (md5 hash is identical to Bimmertech's MCU '10.1.4.11')

Bimmertech

Cross compatibility of updates

Andream, Bimmertech, Carlinkit and IndiWork all offer the same product from the below mentioned company Sunplus.
So far all software updates can be flashed interchangeably, even the MCU. The only downside is that the main menu shows 'Invalid update' if a foreign update was flashed - but that's only visual and does not affect the functionality (bear in mind that this might change at any time!).
cossie1 made a very good overview of the different looks and features here.

Update: Since Carlinkit v9.2.2.yl.b / Andream v2.1.0.3.gpe.b this is no longer possible! Furthermore, the software update menu now requires a vendor specific PIN code to prevent cross flashing.


Changelog for Andream

v2.0.2.7.gpe.b (20.1.7)
  1. Optimize the connection speed of wireless carplay
  2. NBT BMW adds switch headlight carplay will automatically change to dark and white mode
  3. NBT supports test code (fourth digit)
  4. NBT BMW acc off will disconnect the carplay connection
  5. Solve NBT large screen BMW upgrade or restart will appear 'No Signal'
  6. Added NBT BMW P gear to D gear into front view (set lead time)

v2.0.2.6.gpe.b (19.12.14)
  1. Optimize carplay to play music freeze
  2. Settings- Added open echo debugging function for audio
  3. Added channel selection in the settings, the default Chinese version is 149 channels, the default English is 36 channels, the channel does not change with the language (2.4GWiFi channel is 6 channels)
  4. Fixed the reversing interface with Chinese when setting English or other languages
  5. Added menu and back keys to long press the function switch button switch in the settings (need to cooperate with the latest mcu19.12.12)

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Research

Product name: Sunplus SPHE8388
The SoC is very likely the Sunplus SP7201 (technical documentation).

The MCU's CPU is 'STM32F105RB' by ST (technical documentation).


Internals (PCB)

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Well done post.

To add, JoyeAuto uses an external mic

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Are there alternatives?

There is a similar unit from JoyeAuto here that also supports CIC for ~415$.
It has wireless CarPlay and wired Android Auto support but it is unknown if AA also works wireless.

BimmerTech is selling their MMI Prime box for 649$.
While the price tag is high-end, it looks identical to the other units but does not support wireless Android Auto (only wired). CarPlay works wireless.
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Thanks, I added the info.

I figured it might be time to open a separate thread, but it's a work in progress
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Thanks, I added the info.

I figured it might be time to open a separate thread, but it's a work in progress
Very good write up!!! I ordered mine last night and this will be very useful!
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Thanks, I added the info.

I figured it might be time to open a separate thread, but it's a work in progress
Good thinking, great idea.

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Very good write up!!! I ordered mine last night and this will be very useful!
Let me know when yours is shipped please (mine is still processing).
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Explanation:
Code:
1 Display track overlay on 3rd party cameras (unconfirmed)
2 360° camera
3/4/5 depends on your car, for 6.5" or 8.8"/10.25"
6 unknown
7 OFF = 3rd party camera, ON = OEM camera
8 OFF = OEM mic, ON = 3rd party mic
By track overlay (no.1) do you mean the grid lines in the reverse camera on / off ?
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Thanks, I added the info.

I figured it might be time to open a separate thread, but it's a work in progress
Good thinking, great idea.

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Very good write up!!! I ordered mine last night and this will be very useful!
Let me know when yours is shipped please (mine is still processing).
Will do. I ordered from CZ. Hopefully it won't take long. When did you order yours?
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Will do. I ordered from CZ. Hopefully it won't take long. When did you order yours?
Last Sunday also from CZ
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Will do. I ordered from CZ. Hopefully it won't take long. When did you order yours?
Last Sunday also from CZ
And it is still not shipped? You are getting me worried
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No the seller replied to me yesterday to say that the items had arrived in CZ but have been stopped by customs so they need a few more days before they can ship it.

But when I ordered they were showing 97 in stock in CZ, I guess the stock levels are not live and take into account any in transit to there warehouse.
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Would be great if any of you that installed the Andream CarPlay box on a car with HU_NBT_EVO (ID4) can test if you can code the head unit with bimmercode or e-sys or any other coding software, while the CarPlay box is installed. HU_NBT_EVO (ID4) should be in model year 2016 of any of these: F20/F21/F22/F30/F31/F34/F80/F32/F33/F36/F06/F12/F13/G11/G12/G13.
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Would be great if any of you that installed the Andream CarPlay box on a car with HU_NBT_EVO (ID4) can test if you can code the head unit with bimmercode or e-sys or any other coding software, while the CarPlay box is installed. HU_NBT_EVO (ID4) should be in model year 2016 of any of these: F20/F21/F22/F30/F31/F34/F80/F32/F33/F36/F06/F12/F13/G11/G12/G13.
I will try tomorrow.
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I ordered mine last Monday. It shipped, but the US Post Office hasn't started tracking it. Last I saw was it was handed off to the airline on Thursday.

Can't wait to get this in.

I have an iPhone, so I will try to get some good shots for the thread as soon as it is in.
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Great timing, I also ordered one of these ~2 weeks ago, looking forward to evaluating with iPhone.
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I will try tomorrow.
Will be interesting to hear about the results! From what I could see from e-sys was that it complained about HU_ENTRYNAV, which perhaps indicates that the Andream intercepts traffic and reports itself as HU_ENTRYNAV instead of HU_NBT or whatever the correct I'd would be for a 2016 model year head unit.

It seems like they prepared for 2016 HU_NBT_EVO (ID4) 8.8" with dip switch 1-2-4 set to ON in the dip switch picture in op:s original post, but never implemented it.

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Originally Posted by Firefly1337 View Post

This thread is intended to consolidate all available information on the chinese 'Andream' MMI Box.

FAQ
  • What is it?

    It is a small Multi Media Interface (MMI) box that will retrofit the following features to your BMW:
    • Apple CarPlay (wired and wireless)
    • Android Auto (wired and wireless)
    • Apple AirPlay
    • Screen Mirroring (wired) with 'Autolink' (MirrorLink?)
    • Displaying 3rd party aftermarket camera video signals
    • Basic USB playback from e.g. a thumb drive

    The box uses the OEM mic and supports Siri and Google Assistant either via voice keyword ('Hey Siri' / 'Okay Google') or by long-pressing the steering wheel voice button.
  • How does it work?

    The MMI box essentially acts as an intermediary between your original headunit and display. While the box is inactive, the original video signal is passed through unchanged and your car works as before.
    After activating the MMI box, the box's video signal is shown on the display instead.
    You can easily switch back and forth between the box and your original headunit. Using the MMI box is optional and should be seen as an add-on and not as a replacement.
  • Is my car supported?

    All cars roughly from 2013-2016 with 'NBT', 'NBT EVO' (ID4), 'ENTRY' and 'ENTRYNAV' headunits are supported.
    Important: 'NBT EVO' (ID5/ID6) is not supported.

    The official list from Andream is as follows:
    Code:
    1 Series F20/F21 (2011-2017) requires a screen
    2 Series F23 Convertible (2013-2016) Original NBT System
    2 Series F22/F45 MPV (2013-2016) original NBT system
    3 Series F30/F31/F34 (2013-2016)
    4 Series F32/F33/F36 (2013-2016) original NBT system
    5 Series F10/F11 (2013-2016) original NBT system
    5 Series F07 GT (2013-2017) original NBT system
    7 Series F01 F02 (2013-2015) original NBT system
    
    X1 F48 (2016-2017) original NBT system
    X3 F25 (2014-2016)
    X4 F26 (2014-2016) original NBT system
    X5/X6 F15 (2014-2016) original NBT system
    MINI  F56   2013 -2016   6.5"
    MINI  F56   2013 -2016   8.8"
  • What does it cost?

    Prices vary depending from where and when you buy, but usually around 240$.
  • Are there alternatives?

    There is a similar unit from JoyeAuto here that also supports CIC for ~415$.
    It has wireless CarPlay and wired Android Auto support but it is unknown if AA also works wireless.
    Note that this unit cannot use the car's microphone and requires an external mic (might result in poor audio, depends on the mic).

    BimmerTech is selling their MMI Prime box for 649$.
    While the price tag is high-end, it looks identical to the other units but does not support wireless Android Auto (only wired). CarPlay works wireless.


Installation

Installation is the same for all aftermarket units like this (e.g. the 10.25" android 9 displays).

From YT 'BMW DIY Guy' for BimmerTech's MMI v1:



From YT 'Grind My Gears' for BimmerTech's MMI Prime:



Official BimmerTech Prime installation video:




Configuration

The main configuration is done on the box itself using 'dip switches':

Attachment 2194414

Official instructions from Andream:

Attachment 2194415

Explanation:
Code:
1 Display track overlay/grid lines on 3rd party cameras (unconfirmed)
2 360° camera
3/4/5 depends on your car, for 6.5" or 8.8"/10.25"
6 unknown
7 OFF = 3rd party camera, ON = OEM camera
8 OFF = OEM mic, ON = 3rd party mic
Everything else is configured on a software level after installation.
Which Andream model will work with a 2013 X5 e70?
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What is it's audio interface? Does it use AUX like all the other units?
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Which Andream model will work with a 2013 X5 e70?
No Andream models work with CIC, they're only for NBT ID4. Go with Joyeauto or a similar knockoff kit for your E70.
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Cross posting since I totally missed this thread, here's been my experience so far with this unit.

Got my box installed yesterday and today. I only use CarPlay and have an iPhone X so no experience with AA. Everything within CarPlay seems to work pretty well. No complaints after about an hour of usage.

So I've got a '14 NBT HU /w nav, HK & Sirius.
It wasn't possible to fit everything behind or under my head unit. After trying, I ended up having to remove my glove box to fit the unit between the right pocket of the head unit. Quite a bit of T20 undrilling & you need to drop the bottom passenger airbag. Followed Kies video for that. Even the wiring harness barely fit back there, definitely was a tight fit for me.

Ran into an issue where I had no radio signal or sound. I realized that I had to transfer over the two green fiber optic cables from my original harness. If you run into this, make sure they are re-inserted back into the new harness in the right direction (messed this up the first time).

Overall, the install ended up being more of a pain than I anticipated and took me quite a while to get everything squared away and reassembled. Mostly due to the glove box part I wasn't expecting.

Sound quality seems good on my HK system with wireless using Spotify CarPlay on my phone. You can notice some slightly degraded quality with very high volume, but there's an equalizer and volume settings you can play around with. I was worried about sound quality of music, but am pleasantly surprised that it's still good even though the headunit system is set to "aux". I will continue to listen to music in CarPlay Spotify rather than OEM Bluetooth.

Regarding the mic, I called my gf and she told me I sounded perfectly fine on my end (unit uses OEM mic).
Saying "Hey Siri" allows me to do whatever through the unit without touching anything. I think there's a button shortcut for this too? But not sure what that is.
Used Waze and had no issues - worked exactly as expected in full screen.

I have heads up display. So when sound is playing via CarPlay, you can control the CarPlay menu using the steering wheel controls. However the heads up display populates a message saying "action not available in AUX mode" or something, while you scroll from your steering wheel. That's really the only "non OEM" drawback.

Also updated my box before I set it up - successfully flashed from v2.0.2.4 (which it came with) to the latest v2.0.2.5

Definitely worth the upgrade, very happy so far.
Glad I waited for a solution that checked all the boxes for me: wireless, 8.8" full screen support, and uses OEM mic. Bonus that Andream seems to be actively working on firmware updates and includes Android Auto just as a luxury.
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