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      06-02-2015, 04:06 PM   #23
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Why does C&D keep test driving different variants of the 3 and 4 Series?

Do they think that their opinion of it will change only to just end up copying and pasting the same review of the other F3x variants?
Audi places three ads every time they run their "Audi is better" boilerplate review?
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So .87g with all seasons. Impressive. And no MSport brakes which probably would have helped with the braking complaint. And very little under steer. Seems to say that an AWD BMW can be as sporty for a road going car compared to its RWD counterpart, at least under non-track conditions.

For comparison, my xdrive 6mt (335 though) did a 13.5 in the 1/4 mile so this being .4 seconds faster is very impressive. Auto really helps the numbers but Id still be inclined to get it with a 6mt.
An $8000 set of StopTechs wouldn't have helped that car stop any shorter with those Pirelli run flats.
Haha. Yes, but at least on my 335 I needed to get the 19" 403's on Summer Tires to get the MSport Brakes.
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So .87g with all seasons. Impressive. And no MSport brakes which probably would have helped with the braking complaint. And very little under steer. .
I have actually seen more chat about understeer in the rwd than on xdrive
I can't compare two of the same generations as my last RWD BMW was an E90 335 but my current 335 F30 Xdrive, at least with adaptive suspension, and 19's handles very well on the street. When I drive aggressively I always think about how much you need to push this car before the understeer shows up. I don't think it's possible driving at less than insane speeds on the street.
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That trap speed is the highest recorded trap speed of any 3/4er (with 300hp) Car and Driver has ever tested. Including the E9xs.

With just 300hp the 435i matched the S5 with DCT at the qtr (13.1@107 for both as tested by CD)

In respect of the driving experience there is really nothing new added by the xdrive, all complaints are consistent with what's been said about all 35is.
Where did you see 1/4 mile and trap speed #s in the article? Couldn't find them...
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That trap speed is the highest recorded trap speed of any 3/4er (with 300hp) Car and Driver has ever tested. Including the E9xs.

With just 300hp the 435i matched the S5 with DCT at the qtr (13.1@107 for both as tested by CD)

In respect of the driving experience there is really nothing new added by the xdrive, all complaints are consistent with what's been said about all 35is.
Where did you see 1/4 mile and trap speed #s in the article? Couldn't find them...
If you are using your mobile you have to scroll all the way to the bottom, past the other cars until you see a blue button with "show more specifications".
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So .87g with all seasons. Impressive.
Not really, it's 2015.

Those numbers would be impressive in 1990...maybe.

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