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09-22-2017, 11:33 AM | #26 |
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Contract pilots do exist however there are a few hurdles that have to be overcome to allow them to fly for an airline.
The first is that they would need a B737NG type rating on their license. They would also have to demonstrate recency. They would then have to undergone Standard Operating Procedures training and a sim check with Ryanair. In addition to this they would likely have to do check flights with an additional crew member in the flight deck before being signed of by a training Captain. They would also have to undergo an enhanced disclosure criminal records check. In order to get their airport issued crew ID pass they would also have to be able to demonstrate a minimum of 5 years documented employment history with references. All these things together are certainly not insurmountable however do take time - typically several weeks or even more by which time most of Ryanair?s problems are over. |
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09-23-2017, 02:00 AM | #27 |
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I've got an expired Cherokee rating, probably good enough for O'leary....
in a seriousness, I'm behind the pilots taking action, the working conditions from what I'm told and have seen on documentaries, are not good. I have a few friends that are commercial pilots and it's not all fun and games at 30000ft.
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09-23-2017, 09:55 AM | #28 |
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I?ve been to a meeting at the Ryan Air HQ at Dublin airport. Utter utter shithole.
The FD sat on a tatty chair with chunks of foam missing and everyone (FD included) had to supply their own biro?s or pencils. No air con. It was cost cutting to the extreme.. No surprise whatsoever that even the junior pilots looking for a leg up have decided to revolt. |
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09-29-2017, 08:06 AM | #30 |
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i don't think they move around a lot. I'm pretty sure if they move, they start at the bottom and have to put in the hours to rank up.
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10-02-2017, 03:06 AM | #31 |
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Now Monarch have failed, surely this is the perfect opportunity for Ryanair to pick up enough pilots to fill the gap?
I notice that the CAA appear to be confident in chartering 30 odd planes to return 110,000 stranded passengers. So there are available pilots out there. |
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The CAA charters will be fully staffed by other airlines. Emirates were positioning various planes last night from Middle East to LGW/BHX/MAN. Ryanair obviously don't want to go down the charter route as they probably feel it will cost them far too much (although after the CAA intervention last week, it may not be the case now) |
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10-02-2017, 06:33 PM | #35 |
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According to a report I read, Monarch have an Airbus A320 fleet, whereas Ryanair are all Boeing.
Easyjet, on the other hand, are A320 users, so could employ the Ex-Monarch drivers straight away. Ryanair would need to retrain them; so it's not an instant answer to Mr O'Leary's little snafu. |
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Plus, Ryanair charge their pilots for training...
I sincerely hope Ryanair goes out of business one day - it's the worst show of greed (for the boss) at the expense of staff, customers and anyone else really.
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That LBC interview suggests that conditions are worse than I realised. |
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No doubt behind of 'plane payments, plus the engines are frequently leased separately, plus the maintenance regime etc... It will be a nightmare.
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Admittedly, it was a very simplistic view from the outside I was taking
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10-04-2017, 06:08 AM | #43 |
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It is a little complicated admittedly, but airlines do go bust so there must be a precedent for dealing with this. It seems to me that it would potentially save all of the parties a fair bit of money or exposure. Planes sitting idle is pretty expensive so there is a decent incentive on all sides to work out a deal. If there is no prospect of Monarch being bought, this could give the administrators one less problem to deal with.
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The point I was trying to make was that Ryanair couldn't simply pick up all the redundant Monarch pilots to fill their void.
They would need some retraining time before being certified to fly Ryanair's Boeings. However, the ex-Monarch guys could start immediately for Easyjet (should they be needed) because they have been flying the same type of aircraft. |
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