DIY: F30 OEM Alarm Retrofit (320i/328i)

david51 · 06-05-2018, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jalami

Ok.
coding done.
I had to select the 2 cafd.
FZD need 2 cafd.
everything works perfect. great.
Thanks

Gabrielisimous · 06-07-2018, 09:26 PM

Another f30 without sun-rooof successfully alarm retrofitted!! Thanks to roxxor for the tutorial and infinitely grateful with Jhnblckwood, David51 and Jalami for all the guidance and valuable help!!

If someone is interested I have one module for a car "with sunroof" on sale, thank you

Jhnblckwood · 06-08-2018, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Gabrielisimous

Another f30 without sun-rooof successfully alarm retrofitted!! Thanks to roxxor for the tutorial and infinitely grateful with Jhnblckwood, David51 and Jalami for all the guidance and valuable help!!

If someone is interested I have one module for a car "with sunroof" on sale, thank you

Did u end up getting that roof module I sent the link for?
Either way glad u got it working bro

Gabrielisimous · 06-08-2018, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jhnblckwood

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Originally Posted by Gabrielisimous

Another f30 without sun-rooof successfully alarm retrofitted!! Thanks to roxxor for the tutorial and infinitely grateful with Jhnblckwood, David51 and Jalami for all the guidance and valuable help!!

If someone is interested I have one module for a car "with sunroof" on sale, thank you

Did u end up getting that roof module I sent the link for?
Either way glad u got it working bro

Yes I got the one you told me and now I'm selling the other which is for a car with sunroof

Jhnblckwood · 06-08-2018, 01:13 PM

Nice!! Congrats again bro. Glad u didn’t give up. Lol

Gabrielisimous · 06-08-2018, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jhnblckwood

Nice!! Congrats again bro. Glad u didn’t give up. Lol

andrew.shall · 06-16-2018, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabrielisimous

Another f30 without sun-rooof successfully alarm retrofitted!! Thanks to roxxor for the tutorial and infinitely grateful with Jhnblckwood, David51 and Jalami for all the guidance and valuable help!!

If someone is interested I have one module for a car "with sunroof" on sale, thank you

Hey are you still selling your module???

andrew.shall · 06-16-2018, 06:18 PM

For that matter- is anyone selling any of the components? Or if anyone likes helping people with the installation over the internet or in person?? (can thank with paypal of course !)

Gabrielisimous · 06-17-2018, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by andrew.shall

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabrielisimous

Another f30 without sun-rooof successfully alarm retrofitted!! Thanks to roxxor for the tutorial and infinitely grateful with Jhnblckwood, David51 and Jalami for all the guidance and valuable help!!

If someone is interested I have one module for a car "with sunroof" on sale, thank you

Hey are you still selling your module???

Yes I do have it still

aaygen · 09-21-2018, 07:16 AM

Hi all, is it possible to make this work without replacing the mirror with one that has the clown nose?

Jhnblckwood · 09-22-2018, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by aaygen

Hi all, is it possible to make this work without replacing the mirror with one that has the clown nose?

I don't believe it will b possible since a wire connects roof module and mirror I'm sure u will get all sorts of errors. But can't say 100%

manitaci · 10-02-2018, 10:46 AM

Hi, does this DIY include tilt detection?
Some say the sensors are inside the roof module.

Tilt detection = when someone tries to steel your wheels by jacking up the car.

manitaci · 10-05-2018, 07:53 AM

For those interested. There is also a "OEM" BMW retrofit kit for ALARM system.
Partnumber: 65752448362

You will have a extra module (instead of coding)
Interior motion sensors included (instead of replacing roof internal light dome)

I prefer the real OEM way, including coding.

Jhnblckwood · 10-06-2018, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by manitaci

Hi, does this DIY include tilt detection?
Some say the sensors are inside the roof module.

Tilt detection = when someone tries to steel your wheels by jacking up the car.

The sensors in the roof module are the motion sensors. The tilt I believe is in the alarm horn itself. On ebay it says alarm with tilt sensor.

lagwag0n · 10-07-2018, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lagwag0n

Just wanted to thank the OP for this awesome DIY. I finished mine today and had someone code it.

Only issue is that the alarm goes off by itself 4 minutes after I arm it. anyone seen this?

So I thought I would come back and explain where I screwed up and how this cause my alarm to go off after a certain period of time. I finally went back and double checked all my work and realized I wired into the fuse box on 130 instead of 103.

Needless to say though after I fixed that, everything was working great.

Gabrielisimous · 10-08-2018, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lagwag0n

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagwag0n

Just wanted to thank the OP for this awesome DIY. I finished mine today and had someone code it.

Only issue is that the alarm goes off by itself 4 minutes after I arm it. anyone seen this?

So I thought I would come back and explain where I screwed up and how this cause my alarm to go off after a certain period of time. I finally went back and double checked all my work and realized I wired into the fuse box on 130 instead of 103.

Needless to say though after I fixed that, everything was working great.

👌🏼

manitaci · 10-12-2018, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by david51

you can connect to the jack to test side but the problem is that the fuse is 5A while the F62 is 30A.
yes E-sys does not detect the FZD module because it is not powered

Hi David51, tnx for the good explanation.
Please correct me if I am wrong.

Minimum wiring requirements for OEM alarm.
Connector A21*1B needs to be wired:
1 - ground
2 - power (via F62 30A)
3 - to mirror for LED
11 - signal IN from Siren
14 - K_can2_H
15 - K_can2_L

my case: I have no sunroof, so there is no power supply (pins 1+2 empty)
But pins 14 and 15 have wires. Pin 11 will get signal wire.

Q1: Do I only need to power FZD?

Q2: Do I really need 30A, as it seems only relevant for Sunroof motor.
It is safe/worth trying to use power and ground from connector A21*2B. I don't care if 5A fuse will die, just don't want a dead FZD module.

Q3: Is it possible to simply add a red LED diode to PIN 3. I don't want to change rear view mirror.

link to wiring diagram: https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f...tem/1VnYSzkO9x

thanks!

david51 · 10-12-2018, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manitaci

Hi David51, tnx for the good explanation.
Please correct me if I am wrong.

Minimum wiring requirements for OEM alarm.
Connector A21*1B needs to be wired:
1 - ground
2 - power (via F62 30A)
3 - to mirror for LED
11 - signal IN from Siren
14 - K_can2_H
15 - K_can2_L

my case: I have no sunroof, so there is no power supply (pins 1+2 empty)
But pins 14 and 15 have wires. Pin 11 will get signal wire.

Q1: Do I only need to power FZD?

Q2: Do I really need 30A, as it seems only relevant for Sunroof motor.
It is safe/worth trying to use power and ground from connector A21*2B. I don't care if 5A fuse will die, just don't want a dead FZD module.

Q3: Is it possible to simply add a red LED diode to PIN 3. I don't want to change rear view mirror.

link to wiring diagram: https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f...tem/1VnYSzkO9x

thanks!

Hello
yes you have to feed the FZD
you can try to reconnect to the power supply A21*2B
or use the original power supply A21*1B (2)F62 and put a 5A fuse in place of the 30A.
I have never tested but you can try with a led

manitaci · 10-15-2018, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by david51

Hello
yes you have to feed the FZD
you can try to reconnect to the power supply A21*2B
or use the original power supply A21*1B (2)F62 and put a 5A fuse in place of the 30A.
I have never tested but you can try with a led

Tnx. But it seems working w/o pins 1 and 2.
Looks like the FZD module allready gets power from A21*2B.
Pin 14 and 15 seems crucial.

Everything works fine, only to test a external LED next weekend.

UPDATE: LED diode works directly on PIN3 and ground somewhere.

david51 · 10-15-2018, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by manitaci

Quote:

Originally Posted by david51

Hello
yes you have to feed the FZD
you can try to reconnect to the power supply A21*2B
or use the original power supply A21*1B (2)F62 and put a 5A fuse in place of the 30A.
I have never tested but you can try with a led

Tnx. But it seems working w/o pins 1 and 2.
Looks like the FZD module allready gets power from A21*2B.
Pin 14 and 15 seems crucial.

Everything works fine, only to test a external LED next weekend.

Good news

justanurse · 12-29-2018, 05:14 PM

Sorry for bringing up something that's a tad old, but i noticed that I am missing 14,15 pins which are for kcan, I believe this is why I am not seeing the module in the ecu, has anybody else tried running 14,15 to somewhere on the kcan2 bus and had the FZD module appear afterwards in esys?

Jhnblckwood · 12-31-2018, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by midnightf30

Sorry for bringing up something that's a tad old, but i noticed that I am missing 14,15 pins which are for kcan, I believe this is why I am not seeing the module in the ecu, has anybody else tried running 14,15 to somewhere on the kcan2 bus and had the FZD module appear afterwards in esys?

Guess u answered ur own question. Lol
Goodluck bro.

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manitaci New Member 17 Rep 24 Posts Drives: BMW 320d 2013 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Holland iTrader: (0)	For those interested. There is also a "OEM" BMW retrofit kit for ALARM system. Partnumber: 65752448362 You will have a extra module (instead of coding) Interior motion sensors included (instead of replacing roof internal light dome) I prefer the real OEM way, including coding.
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