[m981addicts]

Great BMW ! Now make me a smaller 2GC...that's an order!!!

FWIW I really don't give an owl's hoot (i.e. rat's ass) how many iterations BMW offers. As my 'ole engineering prof used to say: "pays yo money and takes your choice." Good advice.

[Minimization]

Originally Posted by Ash83

WTF is worng with BMW!!!

They are trying to fix thier numbers and reserve the 3 for 4drs and the 4 for 2drs which as we know might end up causing the legnerdary M3 to be M4.. and now they are showing a 4 series GC with 4 doors!!!!

Then do not *** the M3 and call it M4.

There will be an M3. It will just have 4 doors.

Do we have a bunch of art majors on here?

Even numbers- coupes, convertibles, etc.

Makes sense to me.

[Drk280]

With the 4GC the 3 series will end up being the "cheaper" car for the masses and the GC for those who know their cars. I guess we'll all be moving to GC in the not so distant future.

[iwannabimmer]

Originally Posted by JDane07

1 series coupe
3 series sedan
4 series coupe
5 series sedan
6 series coupe/gran coupe
7 series

z series
x series

That's all we need BMW....

Agreed. And more specifically, z4, z8 (a new one would be nice), x3 and x5....no x6 and x4 (if rumors are true).

Originally Posted by Matski

Errm, actually.. the E21 and E30 3-Series were both primarily 2 door sedans.

In that case, would they be going back to having 2-door sedans?

[DrivenByE30]

i3
1 series (3-door hatchback, sedan, 5-door hatchback)
2 series (coupe, 2GC M2)
3 series (sedan, 3GT, touring, limousine, M3)
i5
4 series (coupe, 4GC, hardtop convertible, M4, M4GC, M4 hardtop convertible)
5 series (sedan, 5GT, touring, M5)
6 series (coupe, 6GC, convertible, M6, M6GC, M6 convertible)
7 series (sedan, limousine, M7)
i8 ?

X1
X3
X5, X5M
X6, X6M

Z4
Z8


=====================================

match those body style to the following engines:

i3, turbo i3, i4, turbo i4, diesel i4, i6, turbo i6, diesel i6, v8, turbo v8, v12


oh the combinations...

[vladberca]

Despite of some hate, it will be an awesome car, for sure

[Robin_NL]

They almost always have the Style 401 19 inch wheels on those new 3/4 series testmules @ the Nordschleife.

Cheers
Robin

[ATX78703]

Originally Posted by yuyue

pretty wide B pillars

+1 - that is in contrast to the 6GC

My real question is will the F36 weigh more than the F30? I believe the 6GC weighs more than the F10.... If so, what's the tradeoff (more output or just style factor only?) If it's style only, count me out...

[Ash83]

Originally Posted by Minimization

There will be an M3. It will just have 4 doors.

Do we have a bunch of art majors on here?

Even numbers- coupes, convertibles, etc.

Makes sense to me.

the True M3 is the coupe and the 4dr one was added just compete with AMG.

[jsedlak]

What's with the extra pillar?

edit: I guess it's normal for the gran coupes. It's wide and ugly.

[Matski]

I think it will look fantastic when it's unveiled, and I totally get why they're making it. I also don't find the numbering confusing.

Thumbs up.

[Minimization]

Originally Posted by Ash83

the True M3 is the coupe and the 4dr one was added just compete with AMG.

People have revisionist history when it comes to BMW M GmbH. M Division has been much less consistent than people would like to believe.

A Sedan existed during the E36 days. The E90 M3 Sedan is an incredible machine- cheaper than the Coupe, arguably better looking, more practical, and exactly the same performance.

[jsedlak]

Originally Posted by Minimization

People have revisionist history when it comes to BMW M GmbH. M Division has been much less consistent than people would like to believe.

A Sedan existed during the E36 days. The E90 M3 Sedan is an incredible machine- cheaper than the Coupe, arguably better looking, more practical, and exactly the same performance.

And FWIW, the E46 sedans were arguably better than the coupes. It was a shame they never made an E46 M3.

[ZheHbKa]

Originally Posted by cpw2626

$$$$$

they are competing with their own models

[Ash83]

Originally Posted by Minimization

People have revisionist history when it comes to BMW M GmbH. M Division has been much less consistent than people would like to believe.

A Sedan existed during the E36 days. The E90 M3 Sedan is an incredible machine- cheaper than the Coupe, arguably better looking, more practical, and exactly the same performance.

agreed that E90 M3 sedan is great..

but the name M3 is 99.999% make think about the Coupe

[Jason]

First post updated with the first ever live look video of the 4 Series Gran Coupe:

[Mako]

watching the video makes me think this is going to look a lot better than most people are expecting. Seeing the photos it looks very similar to the F30, but watching the video you can start to see the differences and more 6 series design in it. It will be a really sharp car and anyone with the extra cash that doesn't want something as big as the 5 series (although this will be close) and as good looking as a coupe, this will be a winner. For the pourist, this car will be avoided as it cost more and will weigh more! M3 sedan vs M4 Gran Coupe, the M3 will be cheaper and faster! I would find it hard to believe the M4 gran coupe would look any different interior wise to the M3, so you will be paying probably a $6K premium for the exterior "coupe like" looks.

Having said all that I am glad they are making the Gran Coupe and the M4 GC, but will probably stick with the M3 due to "value"

[ORIGIN M.]

That thing moves...

I guess you might have to be driving a X6M to get a good look at it.

Originally Posted by Jason

...Video of the 4 Series Gran Coupe:

[r3dbimmer89]

Originally Posted by DrivenByE30

i3
1 series (3-door hatchback, sedan, 5-door hatchback)
2 series (coupe, 2GC M2)
3 series (sedan, 3GT, touring, limousine, M3)
i5
4 series (coupe, 4GC, hardtop convertible, M4, M4GC, M4 hardtop convertible)
5 series (sedan, 5GT, touring, M5)
6 series (coupe, 6GC, convertible, M6, M6GC, M6 convertible)
7 series (sedan, limousine, M7)
i8 ?

X1
X3
X5, X5M
X6, X6M

Z4
Z8


=====================================

match those body style to the following engines:

i3, turbo i3, i4, turbo i4, diesel i4, i6, turbo i6, diesel i6, v8, turbo v8, v12


oh the combinations...

You forgot the the FWD 1 series family, X4, X7, Z2, and I think they are doing away with the 1 series sedan and are going to stick with just a 2 series GC/ M2 GC for enthusiasts

[Kinder]

Holy shit, that 4GC was fast and not a lot of body roll

[Mako]

Originally Posted by r3dbimmer89

You forgot the the FWD 1 series family, X4, X7, Z2, and I think they are doing away with the 1 series sedan and are going to stick with just a 2 series GC/ M2 GC for enthusiasts

Hmmm, so in 3 years I will be buying a:

M2 GC

not sure I like the sound of that, sounds like some sort of Asian car

[ORIGIN M.]

They are bringing back the Z3 too!

Originally Posted by r3dbimmer89

You forgot the the FWD 1 series family, X4, X7, Z2, and I think they are doing away with the 1 series sedan and are going to stick with just a 2 series GC/ M2 GC for enthusiasts