[pj94z]

Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

You know what I drive, it's in my signature.

Lol there we go again with assumptions

I don't see any sigs - im on iPhone

So ya.. I don't know

[XxThe_RemedyXx]

Originally Posted by pj94z

Lol there we go again with assumptions

I don't see any sigs - im on iPhone

So ya.. I don't know

I drive a '14 320i. What's your point?

[JAhmed]

Originally Posted by Uber Commuter

No it isn't; you even show how it isn't excessive below:



You'd driven 10 miles and cannot tell if the problem is resolved. You then state you need another 1-2 days to confirm if the issue is resolved or not. The shop will need just as much time (distance) to accomplish the same thing.

Shop took your car in for "pulling to the right" and had to start at one point, then move forward:

1. Perform an alignment - car meets specs.
2. Take for a test drive (need to reach highway speeds to validate this, unless the dealer is ON the highway, probably need a minimum of 10 miles for that alone)
3. Once issue is still noted, continue drive, using different lanes to ensure it isn't road grading causing it (there's another 5 miles).
4. Return to shop; look at suspension/steering geometry and equipment to determine what else is causing it. Replace part (knuckle)
5. Test drive again, same thing needed - issue still present.
6. Return to shop; replace next culprit (ie bearings)
7. Test drive again, problem gone. continue drive on various gradings to verify no "pulling" present
8. Return to shop, log results, park car.

When a "complex" issue isn't solved with the first fix, yes, it can take 61 miles to fix and validate the issue is gone. There is nothing excessive at all about that.

Yup.

[pj94z]

Originally Posted by JAhmed

Yup.

Based on the post by ubercommuter - I have decided that I'm going to just move on and let this issue go, as it seems 61 miles may very well be necessary to diagnose/fix my issue.

Thanks to everyone who posted helpful replies and comments, I appreciate that!

[Michael Schott]

Originally Posted by pj94z

Ok, so what would you do?

Why don't you add something productive to this instead of saying what you would NOT do ?

That would help

I thought my post was pretty balanced. I would ask why they had to drive so far and based on their response let it go. I have more important things to worry about in life than 61 miles on my car. Sorry my post did not validate your point of view.

[tex2670]

Originally Posted by pj94z

Do you know the meaning of irony?

I never said anyone should view things the way I do.

But you have continually said 61 miles is ok for me (or anyone) because it's OK with you.

Please do yourself a favor and educate yourself

Originally Posted by tex2670

Again--if it's not ok with you, why ask all of us if we think it's ok? That was the whole damn point of your OP, right? You just want validation, and you aren't getting it--so you lash out at everyone else.

You can keep going on, not getting it, and making a fool of yourself. I'm fine with that, and it will make this thread much more enjoyable.

Originally Posted by pj94z

No, that's NOT the whole damn point of OP.

Can you read bro? Without adding judgement and bias?

Point of OP is IF 61 miles for an alignment is normal or excessive ?

That's it - PERIOD.

No, I do not want validation of how I think, I'm simply Asking for advice.

Some posters actually did give me useful explanations of why 61 miles may be necessary and that is appreciated.

You and these other clowns come on this thread and add all this BS drama and start telling me what I should or should not think is laughable

Although, I do wonder sometimes who you guys are and what your intelligence level is ?

I hope some of you clowns aren't driving POS cars that you wouldn't mind having a tech drive 100 miles or and maybe some of you don't even own a bmw -- who knows?

Anyway, I find this argument mildly enjoyable hence the time I'm spending even responding back to you clowns.

I'm pretty sure I'm reading this right, along with the rest of us "clowns".

[tex2670]

Originally Posted by pj94z

What do u drive ?

And this is all we need to know about you, and your self entitlement. The old "I'm better than you because my car is more expensive" argument. The only surprise is it took 55 posts for it to rear its head. You stay classy.

[pj94z]

Originally Posted by tex2670

And this is all we need to know about you, and your self entitlement. The old "I'm better than you because my car is more expensive" argument. The only surprise is it took 55 posts for it to rear its head. You stay classy.

Good job , well done

Some of you just get on here and flame ppl bc there's nothing else going on in your life huh? Hey that's cool, don't blame u I guess...

And I asked what kind of car bc I want to know why some of you are easily willing to let a dealer put 61 miles on your car -- so I'm curious what type of car that is you're willing to do that with

I think people with nicer cars would be less willing to accept a 61 mile test drive
Than someone who drives cheaper / older car

Anyway, u guys think whatever u want - this is over

Thanks to the posters who responded with useful info. It did affect my decision on this matter

[XxThe_RemedyXx]

Originally Posted by tex2670

And this is all we need to know about you, and your self entitlement. The old "I'm better than you because my car is more expensive" argument. The only surprise is it took 55 posts for it to rear its head. You stay classy.

This.

[tex2670]

Originally Posted by pj94z

And I asked what kind of car bc I want to know why some of you are easily willing to let a dealer put 61 miles on your car -- so I'm curious what type of car that is you're willing to do that with

I'm eager to hear how this is different? "Oh, is your car as nice as mine? No, well then you probably don't care how the dealer treats it." Nuances, I guess.

[XxThe_RemedyXx]

Originally Posted by tex2670

I'm eager to hear how this is different? "Oh, is your car as nice as mine? No, well then you probably don't care how the dealer treats it." Nuances, I guess.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees right through his comments. Even in his backtracking comments he can't help himself.

[insanecoder]

Originally Posted by Zentan

OP is not really upset about the "61" miles, rather the imaginations he's having that multiple mechanics had sex in the back seat with their gurls

or with each other and all those tools
61 miles worth o moving violations

[pj94z]

Originally Posted by tex2670

I'm eager to hear how this is different? "Oh, is your car as nice as mine? No, well then you probably don't care how the dealer treats it." Nuances, I guess.

Oh , so you're clearly ok with 61 mile test drive for an alignment on someone with a 3 year old 320i ... so that means , someone else should be perfectly ok with 61 mile test drive on their brand new $300,000 Ferrari

Sure ...that makes sense lol




Obviously the type of car / age / mileage makes a huge difference

[tex2670]

Originally Posted by pj94z

Oh , so you're clearly ok with 61 mile test drive for an alignment on someone with a 3 year old 320i ... so that means , someone else should be perfectly ok with 61 mile test drive on their brand new $300,000 Ferrari

Sure ...that makes sense lol




Obviously the type of car / age / mileage makes a huge difference

And how, exactly, is the price of the car a factor as to whether a particular amount of mileage is appropriate to be sure that the problem is fixed? Or, as you stated above, a certain amount of mileage, multiplied by 3, over a period of a few days?

If 60 miles is appropriate, it doesn't matter if it's a 74 Gremlin, or a brand new Bentley.

You have determined, despite the responses (that you solicited) to the contrary, that 60 miles is too much. OK--then it's too much. So call the dealership general manager, ask for your $200 gift card, and be done with it already. And if this was as obvious as you are making it out to be (after asking if it's ok initially), then you'd already have your $200 gift card in hand, because the SA would have said "Oh, of course. That's too much mileage--here you go." Very Unfair.

[MSCD]

Ok, I'll bite. I took my E93 for it's annual inspection and part of that was airbag () replacement. I also had a rattle in the window/ roof. I know the gas was below a 1/4. They kept it overnight and I picked up last night. The fuel reserves were at 29 miles. So they drove it. I have no idea how far because I didn't record it. Now my car is a 2012 but has 28k miles and in the last year has less the 3k and was emission exempt!

Do I want BMW driving my car unnecessarily- no of course not! But the rattle has gone. The only way to hear it was to drive with the roof up... I'm happy.

I just filled the car up and moved on.

I think the OP has a right to his opinion. It's his. I might be annoyed with that % of change too.

Everyone else is entitled to their opinion too.

I disagree that the 'value' has anything to do with it. I treat my cars very well... irrespective of value and age. They have value to me

[pj94z]

Originally Posted by tex2670

And how, exactly, is the price of the car a factor as to whether a particular amount of mileage is appropriate to be sure that the problem is fixed? .

jesus christ...can you even read?

I NEVER said price of the car is a factor as to whether a particular amount of mileage is appropriate to be sure the problem is fixed.

Of course, that's not true. Car X and Car Y will need exactly the same amount of test drive miles to fix problem Z. Even if Car X is 10x more than Car Y.

Common sense...

Jesus...who the heck am I even arguing with here???


What I said was the price of the car is a factor to whether the owner would give a **** IF their car was driven over 60 miles for an alignment.


If you can't understand the difference between the 2 statements, god help you

[Poon Stick]

OP, when you sell the car down the line make sure to notify potential buyers that 61mi on the ODO were the dealer, not you.

Might net you a significant couple cents more for it.

[lvblkjack]

Originally Posted by Poon Stick

OP, when you sell the car down the line make sure to notify potential buyers that 61mi on the ODO were the dealer, not you.

Might net you a significant couple cents more for it.

The other way around - the buyer would likely ask for $200 off.

Or maybe not, since the buyer is cheap and buying used he probably doesn't give a ****.

What do they drive?

/s

[pz619]

Originally Posted by pj94z

jesus christ...can you even read?

I NEVER said price of the car is a factor as to whether a particular amount of mileage is appropriate to be sure the problem is fixed.

Of course, that's not true. Car X and Car Y will need exactly the same amount of test drive miles to fix problem Z. Even if Car X is 10x more than Car Y.

Common sense...

Jesus...who the heck am I even arguing with here???


What I said was the price of the car is a factor to whether the owner would give a **** IF their car was driven over 60 miles for an alignment.


If you can't understand the difference between the 2 statements, god help you

Stop.... Just stop.

[eluded]

I personally don't want my car driven at all because I don't want any fingers pointed when something goes wrong.

Anyway back to the OP, if they drove 61 miles in your car and it doesn't have any new dents or scratches, parking tickets, and they fixed the car, I call it a win.

[LTDemps]

Originally Posted by pj94z

jesus christ...can you even read?

I NEVER said price of the car is a factor as to whether a particular amount of mileage is appropriate to be sure the problem is fixed.

Of course, that's not true. Car X and Car Y will need exactly the same amount of test drive miles to fix problem Z. Even if Car X is 10x more than Car Y.

Common sense...

Jesus...who the heck am I even arguing with here???


What I said was the price of the car is a factor to whether the owner would give a **** IF their car was driven over 60 miles for an alignment.


If you can't understand the difference between the 2 statements, god help you

I understand the difference between both statements however I still think your point is invalid. A car's real world cash value matters not, what it's worth to the person who owns it is all that matters. And you can't quantify that.

As for the whole point of this post, I understand you have made a decision, for what it is worth I think you have made the right one. Would I be irritated that they had put 61 miles on my car? Sure I would, and mine is a 2013 330d with 34,000 miles already on it. BUT, as long as the issue was fixed, they would hear nothing more about it from me.

Having said that, visiting UPS and the airport is unacceptable as far as I am concerned. And I would let them know that. I wouldn't expect anything in return but I do think that miles put on the car should be soley for the purposes of testing the fault. Traveling to the airport isn't exactly indicative of that.

In summary, it would annoy me that they seem to have used the car for errands, but it is conceivable that that was for testing. So I'd be happy its fixed and leave it at that....

[tex2670]

Originally Posted by pj94z

brand new $300,000 Ferrari

Originally Posted by pj94z

jesus christ...can you even read?

I NEVER said price of the car is a factor as to whether a particular amount of mileage is appropriate to be sure the problem is fixed.

Originally Posted by pj94z

What I said was the price of the car is a factor to whether the owner would give a **** IF their car was driven over 60 miles for an alignment.

Yes, I can read. You said the price of the car is not a factor, unless it is a factor.

Original post: dealer performed an alignment--drove my car 61 miles. Is this appropriate?--I don't like it.

Later post: Well, if your car wasn't as nice as mine, then maybe you just don't care how many miles the dealer drives your car--I'm going to abandon the "appropriate for the repair" aspect now.


Got it. Understood.