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I'm asking how stiff the suspension is in an F30 in Sport Mode with Adaptive Suspension as compared to non-adaptive suspension F30 with the M-Sport package. I have adaptive suspension and I feel likes it's stiffer in sport mode than non-adaptive M-Sport suspension.
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Exactly. This is my question. What mode in an F30 M-Sport with Adaptive Suspension is most close to the suspension you get in an F30 M-Sport without Adaptive Suspension.
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Stiffness order:
Adaptive Suspension - Comfort M-sport (non-Adaptive) Adaptive Suspension - Sport / Sport+
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This seems about right. I do think that adaptive suspension sport mode is stiffer than non-adaptive M-Sport suspension.
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The msport springs are the same with or without adaptive damping. The damping makes all the difference though.
So on a normal drive the adaptive is softer as although it rides on the same springs, it softens the damping and let's the car float a little. The moment you build any sort of dynamic forces, it will tighten up the damping. I have real life experience of this, my old adaptive f31 was softer on the daily drive and more taught in the bends than my standard f36! Both m sport. Hope that helps. |
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It makes the car sound alot bettter at the cost of a few mpg's.
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What do you mean by "sound a lot better"? Better than what (Sport?) and in what way?
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As there is a compromise around spring rate with adaptive damping, it is logical that Comfort will be softer, Sport will be firmer, than a passive damper tuned to the M-sport spring rate. (Sport + is not relevant to the damping rate).
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Spring rate is always a compromise, but adaptive damping can do a lot to stop the car feeling too firm or soft at the wrong time. |
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My '17 340i xDrive with MPPSK -
Sport+ in D and S modes does hold the gears longer and downshifts more aggressively than Sport. Because of this, there are more pops and crackles from the exhaust. But in M mode, manually shifting, Sport and Sport+ are basically the same - the only difference being DSCOff for Sport+. The suspension, steering and throttle mapping are identical. The engine noises are identical. As far as I can tell... |
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I got a couple tickets this summer, so I've toned down my ... spirited driving a bit. Less Sport+ mode for me. xDrive is OK. It does raise the car some, which doesn't look great. And it takes some getting used to being able to hammer the throttle mid-corner and just power out of the turn. I generally put All Seasons on in the winter rather than Winters. I think tires like Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ have better cold dry/wet traction than winters, just less traction on actual snow & ice, which I rarely drive on. Plus I go on road trips in the winter that take me south into temps well into the 50s and 60s. If I could wave a magic wand and go back to RWD I would. |
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In a lot of cases, I have more usable power off the line than an M3 or M2. |
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Right but what I mean was that turning off chassis mode for sport only affected "Sport", not "Sport+"
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