[DOCTOR.Y]

Tried bimmertech "service in motion", not working on my car. I have earliest NBT EVO and they said their coding options are not working fully on EVO system at this time. Perhaps other nbt and cic users could give a go.

[Bambazonke]

Originally Posted by balderz

Surely there has to be a way, in my E92 i was able to access SMS messages and emails when the car was stationary in traffic which was great.

Now in my F36 I can't access anything unless it's in park with the handbreak on, so dumb!

This can be coded to be visible in full and read out to you whilst car is in motion I have done it on my 2016 X3 that has NBT2 with ID5

[Bambazonke]

Originally Posted by MarcsM3

Hi jdmagoo,

Thanks for the explanation, understand the approval process must be painful in Australia, many other manufacturers support native spotify integration so it can't be rocket science to allow that app only to be used on the move. Since the hardware is identical in other geographies, like NZ where there is no restriction, it must be easy to get someones e-sys file and look through for anything that is obviously different. It looks like its not an in-motion setting but some other setting/code

If someone is willing to email me a ncd file for a non Aus spec NBT2 HU I will do a comparison between the two files. I have been toying with the idea of removing the 810 country code from the FA list and adding in the UK (812) or NZ?country code and then VO coding the radio again but not sure what other changes it will make that I might not be able to reverse.

BTW I cannot get either the NBT2 unit in my X3 or the CHAMP2 unit in my 320d to auto tune to RDS enabled radio stations that have repeater stations inland from where I live which is really annoying as I had this function working perfectly in my 1994 E36 when living in Southern Africa. Anybody else noticed this? I have coded the AF_FUNKTION to "ein" as the default setting in both head units was aus (off) but it has made no difference.

[wildedave]

Originally Posted by Bambazonke

BTW I cannot get either the NBT2 unit in my X3 or the CHAMP2 unit in my 320d to auto tune to RDS enabled radio stations that have repeater stations inland from where I live which is really annoying as I had this function working perfectly in my 1994 E36 when living in Southern Africa. Anybody else noticed this? I have coded the AF_FUNKTION to "ein" as the default setting in both head units was aus (off) but it has made no difference.

Yep. Will not work in my F31 despite the BMW Genius's best effort. Works fine in my wife's F20....

[Bambazonke]

Originally Posted by balderz

I emailed BMW Australia and asked why this is the case and this is the response I got:

"Thank you for your email. Regarding the functionality of SMS and Email messages, and ConnectedDrive apps, a vehicle needs to be stationary (defined as being in Park and the brake up). This is for BMW Group Australia to be in line with government regulations relating to Driver Distraction Laws."

Anybody out there without Navigation and a DVD player game to remove 810 (Australia) & 825 (Oceania radio control) from their FA and VO re code their head units. I am pretty sure this has something to do with the above. I would try this myself but I am worried I will loose my maps and the ability to play DVD's as the area code may be changed.

[wildedave]

Originally Posted by balderz

I emailed BMW Australia and asked why this is the case and this is the response I got:

"Thank you for your email. Regarding the functionality of SMS and Email messages, and ConnectedDrive apps, a vehicle needs to be stationary (defined as being in Park and the brake up). This is for BMW Group Australia to be in line with government regulations relating to Driver Distraction Laws."

So Spotify on CarPlay is OK, yet Spotify on iDrive is not. What a crock.....

And don't get me started on why a 2016 Ford Something can be updated to support Car Play whilst we have to buy a new car.....

[Pumpkinss]

Bumping this one. Did anyone get a fix? Can it be coded out?

[Muzza]

Bump. Any news?

[fuzzyboat9239]

So I was able to get all apps active while car is stopped (but in drive and handbreak off) by coding:

Head Unit > 3000 HMI > SPEEDLOCK_CAR_STANDSTILL from handbrake_and_gearbox_p to none

So now I can access all apps, including Spotify, while stopped in traffic. They still grey out when you start to drive but it's a start at least!

[Bambazonke]

Originally Posted by Pumpkinss

Bumping this one. Did anyone get a fix? Can it be coded out?

Apps in motion cannot be coded out. I have spoken to someone in the know and they have told me there is a "control" file which is digitally encrypted by BMW AG on the hard drive of the NBT2 unit that cannot be edited by a third party to enable Apps in motion. This file I think also now contains your Apps FSC code as I have interrogated my head units in both my X3 and X5 using E Sys and can only see the Navigation and voice activation codes. I think this is the same file that BMW modifies remotely when you buy Carplay from the Connected Drive store.

However if you have an iphone, Spotify Calendar and the Connected drive App do work in motion if you have ID5 or 6. For some reason Spotify on an Android phone does not work work when in motion

Best option if you have ID5 or greater is to get Carplay otherwise source another unit from overseas at some cost!

Be very careful about sourcing Carplay from 3rd party sources. The latest NBT2 software update that dealers routinely do, checks for this and now rejects the non OEM FSC codes for Carplay plus all your other functions you had before like navigation voice control etc. (Your OEM FSC codes for navigation voice control are replaced by fake codes at the same time you get a fake Carplay code)
This software update also prevents *.bin files on USB drives from reloading the fake FSC codes. E Sys cannot remove these codes and replace them with the original OEM codes that come as a repair kit