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      05-31-2018, 07:21 PM   #1
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Arrow TTFS| Introducing N55 HPFP Single Pump Upgrade

While the factory fuel system is adequate for stock vehicles these engines quickly run out of fuel with even basic performance upgrades. To help combat this, we are introducing the first High Pressure Fuel Pump (HPFP) for the N55 direct injection engines! Our extensive work with Xtreme-DI has revealed this pump can expand the tuning and performance opportunity of your N55 motor. This is a complete bolt on upgrade and comes with everything needed to make installation a breeze. As you know the price can not be posted here, but it is far lower than our dual pump setup which has a higher fuel capacity.

The installation process of the pump is fairly easy but, it must be accompanied by our custom base tune to work correctly which, is included with your purchase and you can use our tuning services for performance tuning or have your preferred tuner take your N55 to the next level with this brilliant upgrade!

Maximum Flow Rate: 195LPH @ 7000rpm

Maximum Rail Pressure 200bar / 2900psi (like OEM)

Fuel Compatibility: all known fuels, all Ethanol blends

Mechanical Data Geometric Pump Capacity 1.22cc (OEM = 0.897cc > +36% capacity)






After doing our own R/D testing we decided to ask an old time friend and industry leader Active Autowerke to do some independent testing here was their results with an M235i with a Pure Stage 2 (PS2) and our pump on a mustang dyno. As you can see from the data it is supporting 425 wheel horse power and 500 wheel torque on a mustang dyno with pump gas only.

Independent Testing Done at Active Autowerke


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Do you need an upgraded LPFP to run the upgraded HPFP, like the fuel-it stage 2 LPFP?
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Do you need an upgraded LPFP to run the upgraded HPFP, like the fuel-it stage 2 LPFP?
I would imagine since you run out of LPFP before the HPFP becomes a restriction. if the LPFP can't supply enough fuel to the hpfp then you're leaving capacity on the table.
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pm price please.
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If you could PM pricing info that would nice please and thank you
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Just go to their website. It took me like 30 seconds to find the price...

It's about half the price of the dual pumps.
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The product is available on our website. Pm sent :-)
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Just go to their website. It took me like 30 seconds to find the price...

It's about half the price of the dual pumps.
So around the price of a Pure Turbo Stage 2?

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Expensive but possibly a solution to your lack of fuel issue.

Then again, no idea if their tune works with BM3 or if their tune supports a AH3.

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Wow this is a great upgrade but at $2300 I might just wait and see how others review it before pulling the trigger.
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Is there a V2 of this pump coming with a higher flow rate?

That's the one I'm waiting for.
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Is there a V2 of this pump coming with a higher flow rate?

That's the one I'm waiting for.
That would be their dual pump which is 2.2x the cost and came out first.
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TTFS, what is the capacity of this compared to a PI system? I assume it doesn't match, but this has some serious advantages over a PI system.

Would be interested in seeing a cost comparison break down of a full PI system (controller, tuning, install time, etc) Vs. a full single pump HPFP system upgrade. I bet it's pretty close.

My concern is your tuner of choice being able to tune with it. Is there some secret sauce to it?

At $2k this would be a no brainer for me.
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That would be their dual pump which is 2.2x the cost and came out first.
No.

I'm referring to an upgraded version of the same pump they've released.

I've been watching this development for quite some time.

Perhaps you should research before you speak.

http://www.xtreme-di.com/index_files/HPFP35.htm
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So around the price of a Pure Turbo Stage 2?

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Expensive but possibly a solution to your lack of fuel issue.

Then again, no idea if their tune works with BM3 or if their tune supports a AH3.
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TTFS, what is the capacity of this compared to a PI system? I assume it doesn't match, but this has some serious advantages over a PI system.

Would be interested in seeing a cost comparison break down of a full PI system (controller, tuning, install time, etc) Vs. a full single pump HPFP system upgrade. I bet it's pretty close.

My concern is your tuner of choice being able to tune with it. Is there some secret sauce to it?

At $2k this would be a no brainer for me.
Yes, the pump is not simply plug and play certain configuration were done to make it run like a stock and BM3 and MHD may tune on the provided file update.
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Just go to their website. It took me like 30 seconds to find the price...

It's about half the price of the dual pumps.
So around the price of a Pure Turbo Stage 2?

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Expensive but possibly a solution to your lack of fuel issue.

Then again, no idea if their tune works with BM3 or if their tune supports a AH3.
Indeed that looks really interesting !
$2300 isn't cheap though, plus import duties and VAT for EU...
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so if dual hpfp the price will be 4500?
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Yes, the pump is not simply plug and play certain configuration were done to make it run like a stock and BM3 and MHD may tune on the provided file update.
Is your software modifications (flash?) for this unit the same for all cars or is it different for all models?
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I've heard this before but haven't seen any data to support it. All of the logs I've seen where fuel is restricted show a HPFP crash, not LPFP. If you have links to data I would love to see it.

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I've heard this before but haven't seen any data to support it. All of the logs I've seen where fuel is restricted show a HPFP crash, not LPFP. If you have links to data I would love to see it.
Same here, HPFP crashes, not LPFP...
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