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      12-22-2014, 06:32 PM   #23
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I have M-Sport standard suspension (not Adaptive) and standard brakes, and to me and how I drive, they are fine.
Great car. Handles wonderfully. Chances are these bashing threads are about differently equipped cars than yours.
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      12-22-2014, 06:39 PM   #24
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Didnt people test drive their cars before they got them? When I did the un4gettable event I abused the 428 GC to the fullest, did things I would never do on a dealer test drive. I knew what to expect.
I was privileged enough to have a demo 328i m-sport sedan for a week before i even ordered mine, so that was a great chance to see performance, economy, space, wife's approval etc

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Great car. Handles wonderfully. Chances are these bashing threads are about differently equipped cars than yours.
Yeah I guess so, but even the 320i luxury line I had (which I assume has the base suspension?) was better than the Camry. Noticeably poorer handling and less power than the m-sport.

I kinda attributed that to the fact that people who would be buying a base/luxury/comfort line wouldn't be driving it like a sports car, but more a cruisy sedan? Hence 'comfort', 'luxury'? Get what you pay for I guess.
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E60? no
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Unless I'm mistaken, the person who came from the E60 wasn't the OP.
Totally screwed that up. Sorry!

I guess the fact that comparing the two is a little silly though.
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Anyone else think that the handling and braking sucks on this car?
I don't know about the handling and braking, but the intake on my 328i certainly sucks. Come to think of it, I'd also say the exhaust on my car blows.
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Have yet to drive a better semi-lux performance coupe for the price, but then again there are virtually no competitors in this class that come with a MT, save for the Audi S5.
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I don't know about the handling and braking, but the intake on my 328i certainly sucks. Come to think of it, I'd also say the exhaust on my car blows.
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I wouldn't go so far to say that handling on a non-DHP suspension sucks. Forum member Minimaul and I both tear up autocross and track days in our non-DHP 328's. Suspension could be a little [OK, a lot] firmer, but the car's weight distribution is just about a perfect 50/50 split front to rear. That's more important than an adaptive suspension by a mile for handling purposes, and the 50/50 weight distribution doesn't improve with DHP.


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Yes, the handling on a non-704 suspension/non-DHP 3 series sucks. The braking isn't bad.

Nobody told us that you have to make sure to order the 704 or DHP to make your BMW a sport sedan. Some of us just figured it out or read enough on here to be able to know. For a guy walking into a dealer to buy a car, I'm not sure how he would know. Most of the CAs don't know either.

OP - sorry if you got an underspecced BMW. They aren't all like that.
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      12-22-2014, 11:01 PM   #32
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I don't know about the handling and braking, but the intake on my 328i certainly sucks. Come to think of it, I'd also say the exhaust on my car blows.
Your sense of humor is clearly way above the heads of your audience (except for me).
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I wouldn't go so far to say that handling on a non-DHP suspension sucks. Forum member Minimaul and I both tear up autocross and track days in our non-DHP 328's. Suspension could be a little [OK, a lot] firmer, but the car's weight distribution is just about a perfect 50/50 split front to rear. That's more important than an adaptive suspension by a mile for handling purposes, and the 50/50 weight distribution doesn't improve with DHP.
Your car would handle better if it had the mechanical sport suspension. Option 704, which you can't get on an xDrive car.
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      12-23-2014, 08:02 AM   #35
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Anyone else think that the handling and braking sucks on this car?
Which car is "this" car? The handling and brakes are fine on my RWD Sport Line. (Although I would like the brake pedal to be firmer with less travel.)
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Anyone else think that the handling and braking sucks on this car?
In base configuration, maybe. Optioned appropriately, not so much. It's no Cayman, but you knew that...
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Anyone else think that the handling and braking sucks on this car?
Next time buy a M4 or a 335i RWD MSPORT with the break option, and you will not regret.

FYI - Starring feel on my 335i is good NOT PERFECT, now, I just drove the new 2015 Porsche Macan and it has really BAD driving feeling, and the 2015 M4 and 235i is not that different...

I believe that it will take another 3 to 4 years for BMW get the same dynamics that we had in our E90 cars... Till then we have to live with it.

If you ask me... YES I still F happy with my 335i MSPORT with MPPK and now with BAVSOUND, it is an amazing car, not perfect, but I don't have any regrets on it.
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There's a thread like this pretty much every day. The OP never says "I carefully researched and specced my car, I decided upon a Sport line 328 with XXX, XXX, XXX, and I must say I am horribly disappointed with the result."

It's always "Why duz BMW suk? I thought I can haz sport car."

And under questioning, we find out that the OP walked into a dealer and bought the least expensive car the dealer would sell him, possibly given an engine choice. No line, no M-Sport suspension, no DHP, and no awareness of what he was ordering or buying.

The slightly sad part is that there was a time when a given BMW had a more sporting character than it may now. But BMW decided that was locking out a large part of the market who want a more comfortable car and the sales numbers are generally proving them right.

This was probably a troll OP anyway.
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