F30POST
F30POST
2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts
BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > Technical Forums > N47 and N57 Turbodiesel Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications > Transfer Case Failures Database
ARMA SPEED
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      08-08-2020, 09:32 AM   #199
BBri89
Captain
BBri89's Avatar
United Kingdom
513
Rep
749
Posts

Drives: F31 320d xDrive M Sport
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: West Sussex, UK

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enabled View Post
Physically, nothing. One is a part number for the transfer case which you must return the core, and one is the original one.

Presumably the one ending in 725 will be the rebuilt ones from cores.
Ah I see. Thanks
__________________
2015 F31 320d xDrive M Sport (Plus pack)

My progress thread
Appreciate 0
      08-09-2020, 01:15 PM   #200
Malloy
Lieutenant
Malloy's Avatar
958
Rep
437
Posts

Drives: '05 M3 | 6MT | Slicktop
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Philadelphia, PA

iTrader: (0)

Not looking good. My symptoms match known transfer case failure symptons. My warranty is still valid, so I should be fine. I will update once the failure is verified!

drivetrainf31 by Michael Malloy, on Flickr
__________________
Appreciate 0
      08-09-2020, 09:41 PM   #201
Enabled
Lieutenant Colonel
1406
Rep
1,799
Posts

Drives: 328xd Wagon, M2 Competition
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Houston

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malloy View Post
Not looking good. My symptoms match known transfer case failure symptons. My warranty is still valid, so I should be fine. I will update once the failure is verified!

drivetrainf31 by Michael Malloy, on Flickr
At this point it could be anything, even a boost leak and limp mode, etc. Let us know of the codes associated with whatever may be going on.
Appreciate 0
      08-15-2020, 06:05 PM   #202
Malloy
Lieutenant
Malloy's Avatar
958
Rep
437
Posts

Drives: '05 M3 | 6MT | Slicktop
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Philadelphia, PA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enabled View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malloy View Post
Not looking good. My symptoms match known transfer case failure symptons. My warranty is still valid, so I should be fine. I will update once the failure is verified!

drivetrainf31 by Michael Malloy, on Flickr
At this point it could be anything, even a boost leak and limp mode, etc. Let us know of the codes associated with whatever may be going on.
Well, I let my paranoia get the best of me. 2 coils died so the dealer replaced them and the plugs.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      08-17-2020, 01:20 AM   #203
capt_slow
Captain
capt_slow's Avatar
United_States
556
Rep
906
Posts

Drives: 2017 F31 328d
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Malloy View Post
Well, I let my paranoia get the best of me. 2 coils died so the dealer replaced them and the plugs.
For split second I thought the dealer pulled a fast one on you since diesels dont have spark plugs, but then I looked at your signature.
__________________
2017 328d xDrive Sports Wagon: Estoril Blue, Black Sensatec, M-Sport Pkg
2020 i3 Rex: Capparis White, Giga World
Appreciate 1
      08-31-2020, 06:10 PM   #204
328iX
David
328iX's Avatar
United_States
786
Rep
2,010
Posts

Drives: 2015 328iX F31
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Temecula, CA

iTrader: (0)

I got a letter today saying remedy available from my last car (F31 Diesel) my 328i had the TC go out at the same time as my diesel so I don't understand why they don't just recall all ATC35 units.
Attached Images
 
Appreciate 0
      09-01-2020, 10:35 AM   #205
Enabled
Lieutenant Colonel
1406
Rep
1,799
Posts

Drives: 328xd Wagon, M2 Competition
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Houston

iTrader: (0)

You know they're not updating anything to the transfer case itself, right?
__________________
-2014 328d Wagon, 8HP. Self-tuned, 270hp/430ft-lbs.
-2019 M2 Competition MT, Alpine White. Self-tuned 560hp
-2016 Mini Cooper S, MT. Many plans.
Others:
-E36 328is. 2000 Z3 Roady. 2003 VW Jetta TDI Manual. Estoril Z3M Coupe.
Appreciate 0
      09-01-2020, 10:31 PM   #206
Tim07e90
Captain
Tim07e90's Avatar
United_States
130
Rep
775
Posts

Drives: 2007 E90 328i
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2007 BMW 328i  [8.50]
Look what I was able to fight.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Performance Mods: ST Coilovers | R1 Concepts Premier Rotors w/Hawk HPS Pads | ECS Stainless Steel Brake Lines | OEM 219M Wheels | Bridgestone Potenza RE760 | Precision Euro Spacers | AA Race Headers | AFE Race Midpipes | Remus Powersound Quad Exhaust | AA Offroad Tune | RevMotoring Intake Pipe | Cyba Scoops
Appreciate 0
      09-04-2020, 09:45 AM   #207
foxmccleod
New Member
0
Rep
13
Posts

Drives: Porsche 911
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Atlanta

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim07e90 View Post
Look what I was able to fight.
That excellent. Was it pretty straightforward? I am hoping to get my previous repair reimbursed later this month.
Appreciate 0
      09-04-2020, 10:39 AM   #208
Tim07e90
Captain
Tim07e90's Avatar
United_States
130
Rep
775
Posts

Drives: 2007 E90 328i
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2007 BMW 328i  [8.50]
Quote:
Originally Posted by foxmccleod View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim07e90 View Post
Look what I was able to fight.
That excellent. Was it pretty straightforward? I am hoping to get my previous repair reimbursed later this month.
Unfortunately, it wasn't easy. Initially, BMW Palm Springs replaced my cv joint (per the recall) and denied my claim for reimbursement. They stated there wasn't an issue with the transfer case and cv joint because there wasn't rust. (Of course there isn't rust, it's a brand new transfer case and accessories that your dealership replaced.) They told me to contact BMW NA because I might have better luck, even though the TREAD ACT clearly states the dealership should rectify the issue of reimbursement.

So knowing this I contacted BMW NA and filed a complaint on the dealership right away and then I asked if they can reimburse me. And of course they gave me the run around and told me the dealership needs to handle that. But they would gladly appoint me a Conflict Officer to help with my complaint. And in one day I had the Service Manager of Palm Springs call me to fix the issue. Then 4 days after she said my reimbursement was approved. Then a week after that I got my check.

Long story short, file a complaint when you know you have a case or are right!
__________________
Performance Mods: ST Coilovers | R1 Concepts Premier Rotors w/Hawk HPS Pads | ECS Stainless Steel Brake Lines | OEM 219M Wheels | Bridgestone Potenza RE760 | Precision Euro Spacers | AA Race Headers | AFE Race Midpipes | Remus Powersound Quad Exhaust | AA Offroad Tune | RevMotoring Intake Pipe | Cyba Scoops
Appreciate 1
      09-08-2020, 03:49 PM   #209
Soul_Glo
Major General
Soul_Glo's Avatar
United_States
13346
Rep
7,484
Posts

Drives: G20
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Manhattan, NYC

iTrader: (1)

I can't seem to add to the list. At 77k miles there was a horrendous judder from the transfer case when engaging reverse or revving at idle to 1.5k.

435d x drive. 2015.
Appreciate 0
      09-17-2020, 07:12 PM   #210
CTMike
First Lieutenant
United_States
262
Rep
329
Posts

Drives: 2021 X5 40i MSport/2011 E93 M3
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: CT

iTrader: (1)

2015 F31 328dX went in for the recall today and will be getting a new transfer case. Dealer mentioned a number of other cars there for the same reason.
Appreciate 0
      09-18-2020, 12:57 AM   #211
328iX
David
328iX's Avatar
United_States
786
Rep
2,010
Posts

Drives: 2015 328iX F31
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Temecula, CA

iTrader: (0)

Getting a new TC is nice and all, till you realize you'll be in the same predicament in 40k miles.
Appreciate 0
      09-18-2020, 10:57 AM   #212
FaRKle!
Brigadier General
4012
Rep
3,538
Posts

Drives: 328d Wagon, M2 Comp, i4 eD35
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by 328iX View Post
Getting a new TC is nice and all, till you realize you'll be in the same predicament in 40k miles.
I doubt it. They're correcting the primary vibration wear failure mode with the more compliant giubo. Why would they spend all this money to have an ineffective recall?
__________________
-328d Wagon Build Log (with helpful reference links)
-My YouTube Channel for some of the best DIYs and in depth information

Please don't PM me for suspension recommendations unless interested in paid private consultations.
Appreciate 0
      09-18-2020, 12:44 PM   #213
328iX
David
328iX's Avatar
United_States
786
Rep
2,010
Posts

Drives: 2015 328iX F31
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Temecula, CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FaRKle! View Post
I doubt it. They're correcting the primary vibration wear failure mode with the more compliant giubo. Why would they spend all this money to have an ineffective recall?
Because everyone will eventually be out of warranty by the time it happens a second time.

Mine was replaced 2 months ago, does that mean I got the new guibo? Seems like nobody knows what's going on.

I'm pretty sure both of my failures have been the clutch pack slipping/skipping. I had codes for the tc saying it's at its end of service life.

On the diesels I know there was a water intrusion/rust issue.
Appreciate 0
      09-18-2020, 01:12 PM   #214
Tim07e90
Captain
Tim07e90's Avatar
United_States
130
Rep
775
Posts

Drives: 2007 E90 328i
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2007 BMW 328i  [8.50]
Quote:
Originally Posted by 328iX View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by FaRKle! View Post
I doubt it. They're correcting the primary vibration wear failure mode with the more compliant giubo. Why would they spend all this money to have an ineffective recall?
Because everyone will eventually be out of warranty by the time it happens a second time.

Mine was replaced 2 months ago, does that mean I got the new guibo? Seems like nobody knows what's going on.

I'm pretty sure both of my failures have been the clutch pack slipping/skipping. I had codes for the tc saying it's at its end of service life.

On the diesels I know there was a water intrusion/rust issue.
Yes the new guibo is actually a new revised version. And it also states a new BMW part number on the recall and my invoice. @enabled explains it well
__________________
Performance Mods: ST Coilovers | R1 Concepts Premier Rotors w/Hawk HPS Pads | ECS Stainless Steel Brake Lines | OEM 219M Wheels | Bridgestone Potenza RE760 | Precision Euro Spacers | AA Race Headers | AFE Race Midpipes | Remus Powersound Quad Exhaust | AA Offroad Tune | RevMotoring Intake Pipe | Cyba Scoops
Appreciate 0
      09-18-2020, 02:08 PM   #215
FaRKle!
Brigadier General
4012
Rep
3,538
Posts

Drives: 328d Wagon, M2 Comp, i4 eD35
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by 328iX View Post
Because everyone will eventually be out of warranty by the time it happens a second time.

Mine was replaced 2 months ago, does that mean I got the new guibo? Seems like nobody knows what's going on.

I'm pretty sure both of my failures have been the clutch pack slipping/skipping. I had codes for the tc saying it's at its end of service life.

On the diesels I know there was a water intrusion/rust issue.
Many were already out of warranty the first time around, so it doesn't matter if they'd be out of warranty, "the next time."
__________________
-328d Wagon Build Log (with helpful reference links)
-My YouTube Channel for some of the best DIYs and in depth information

Please don't PM me for suspension recommendations unless interested in paid private consultations.
Appreciate 0
      09-18-2020, 02:10 PM   #216
328iX
David
328iX's Avatar
United_States
786
Rep
2,010
Posts

Drives: 2015 328iX F31
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Temecula, CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FaRKle! View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by 328iX View Post
Because everyone will eventually be out of warranty by the time it happens a second time.

Mine was replaced 2 months ago, does that mean I got the new guibo? Seems like nobody knows what's going on.

I'm pretty sure both of my failures have been the clutch pack slipping/skipping. I had codes for the tc saying it's at its end of service life.

On the diesels I know there was a water intrusion/rust issue.
Many were already out of warranty the first time around, so it doesn't matter if they'd be out of warranty, "the next time."
It does matter hence why I made my first comment.

I think most people catch it in warranty as well.
Appreciate 0
      09-18-2020, 02:30 PM   #217
Pittcrew
Private
Pittcrew's Avatar
United_States
34
Rep
59
Posts

Drives: 2013 Estoril Blue 335i Xdrive
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Pittsburgh

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 328iX View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by FaRKle! View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by 328iX View Post
Because everyone will eventually be out of warranty by the time it happens a second time.

Mine was replaced 2 months ago, does that mean I got the new guibo? Seems like nobody knows what's going on.

I'm pretty sure both of my failures have been the clutch pack slipping/skipping. I had codes for the tc saying it's at its end of service life.

On the diesels I know there was a water intrusion/rust issue.
Many were already out of warranty the first time around, so it doesn't matter if they'd be out of warranty, "the next time."
It does matter hence why I made my first comment.

I think most people catch it in warranty as well.
A recall covers the parts and labor to fix your car. The warranty status does not matter.
The dealership might try to say it's a different problem the second time it breaks, but that's a totally different argument.
__________________
2013 EB 335i Xdrive, Msport package, BM3 Stage 1 93 octane, VRSF Chargepipe
Appreciate 0
      09-18-2020, 03:43 PM   #218
Enabled
Lieutenant Colonel
1406
Rep
1,799
Posts

Drives: 328xd Wagon, M2 Competition
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Houston

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 328iX View Post
Seems like nobody knows what's going on.
Irony
__________________
-2014 328d Wagon, 8HP. Self-tuned, 270hp/430ft-lbs.
-2019 M2 Competition MT, Alpine White. Self-tuned 560hp
-2016 Mini Cooper S, MT. Many plans.
Others:
-E36 328is. 2000 Z3 Roady. 2003 VW Jetta TDI Manual. Estoril Z3M Coupe.
Appreciate 0
      09-18-2020, 03:47 PM   #219
328iX
David
328iX's Avatar
United_States
786
Rep
2,010
Posts

Drives: 2015 328iX F31
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Temecula, CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pittcrew View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by 328iX View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by FaRKle! View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by 328iX View Post
Because everyone will eventually be out of warranty by the time it happens a second time.

Mine was replaced 2 months ago, does that mean I got the new guibo? Seems like nobody knows what's going on.

I'm pretty sure both of my failures have been the clutch pack slipping/skipping. I had codes for the tc saying it's at its end of service life.

On the diesels I know there was a water intrusion/rust issue.
Many were already out of warranty the first time around, so it doesn't matter if they'd be out of warranty, "the next time."
It does matter hence why I made my first comment.

I think most people catch it in warranty as well.
A recall covers the parts and labor to fix your car. The warranty status does not matter.
The dealership might try to say it's a different problem the second time it breaks, but that's a totally different argument.
Recalls are generally for safety related issues and they usually revise said parts. The TC is considered safety related due to possible loss of power. Or something as bad as the Takata airbag recall.

A warranty extension on the other hand or "voluntary recall" is where if the part so happens to fail it will be covered, but I don't really see revisions for those.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Appreciate 0
      09-20-2020, 08:32 PM   #220
Pittcrew
Private
Pittcrew's Avatar
United_States
34
Rep
59
Posts

Drives: 2013 Estoril Blue 335i Xdrive
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Pittsburgh

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 328iX View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pittcrew View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by 328iX View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by FaRKle! View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by 328iX View Post
Because everyone will eventually be out of warranty by the time it happens a second time.

Mine was replaced 2 months ago, does that mean I got the new guibo? Seems like nobody knows what's going on.

I'm pretty sure both of my failures have been the clutch pack slipping/skipping. I had codes for the tc saying it's at its end of service life.

On the diesels I know there was a water intrusion/rust issue.
Many were already out of warranty the first time around, so it doesn't matter if they'd be out of warranty, "the next time."
It does matter hence why I made my first comment.

I think most people catch it in warranty as well.
A recall covers the parts and labor to fix your car. The warranty status does not matter.
The dealership might try to say it's a different problem the second time it breaks, but that's a totally different argument.
Recalls are generally for safety related issues and they usually revise said parts. The TC is considered safety related due to possible loss of power. Or something as bad as the Takata airbag recall.

A warranty extension on the other hand or "voluntary recall" is where if the part so happens to fail it will be covered, but I don't really see revisions for those.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
At this point I don't even know what your argument is.
At first you seem to imply that BMW only wants to fix it under a recall 1 time and that the second time it fails, the owner will have to pay for it.
Then you try to explain what a recall actually is.
Please clarify your point.
__________________
2013 EB 335i Xdrive, Msport package, BM3 Stage 1 93 octane, VRSF Chargepipe
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:21 AM.




f30post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST