[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by johnung

My yellow cable connection kept doing that to me when I was trying to collect logs. Frustrating!!! Since I started using the Kies WiFi Adapter with my iPhone, it hasn't dropped connection even once. Probably 50 logs. Link below...

Hope this helps someone!

https://www.kiesmotorsports.com/prod...0&_ss=r?aff=22

Pretty much my experience as well. For some reason, the cable stopped working after a while, and it got frustrating for someone like me who uses it a lot.

I switched to Kies adapter and never looked back. We offer the same adapter, by the way, with free shipping.

[n55david]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Pretty much my experience as well. For some reason, the cable stopped working after a while, and it got frustrating for someone like me who uses it a lot.

I switched to Kies adapter and never looked back. We offer the same adapter, by the way, with free shipping.

The wifi adapters are the way to go for sure

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Pretty much my experience as well. For some reason, the cable stopped working after a while, and it got frustrating for someone like me who uses it a lot.

I switched to Kies adapter and never looked back. We offer the same adapter, by the way, with free shipping.

I need one for MHD!

[n55david]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

I need one for MHD!

Mhd has one.. little secret.. its the same as the kies one and a few others out there.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

I need one for MHD!

Originally Posted by n55david

Mhd has one.. little secret.. its the same as the kies one and a few others out there.

the Kies one does not work for MHD?

[n55david]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

the Kies one does not work for MHD?

Doesn't it?
I use the mhd branded one for bootmod3, xhp etc I just assumed it did

[thejeremyman9]

Kies doesnt explicitly list MHD on their website, but AFAIK if it works with XHP it works with MHD. I highly doubt kies is making these... so as noted above they are all just rebraded.

[johnung]

Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

Kies doesnt explicitly list MHD on their website, but AFAIK if it works with XHP it works with MHD. I highly doubt kies is making these... so as noted above they are all just rebraded.

I don't think there's any issue working with MHD. Only real issues that I've heard with WiFi adapters are issues working with phones other than iPhones. I believe that there is some variability with how some Android phones connect over WiFi

[n55david]

Originally Posted by johnung

I don't think there's any issue working with MHD. Only real issues that I've heard with WiFi adapters are issues working with phones other than iPhones. I believe that there is some variability with how some Android phones connect over WiFi

Works with the new galaxy phones

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

I highly doubt kies is making these... so as noted above they are all just rebraded.

We were offered the same product from China but turned it down, so we are not accused of copying other vendors.

Originally Posted by n55david

Doesn't it?
I use the mhd branded one for bootmod3, xhp etc I just assumed it did

I thought it did as well.

[thejeremyman9]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

We were offered the same product from China but turned it down, so we are not accused of copying other vendors.

I mean just saying kies is probably not doing their own design and manufacturing of the wifi adapter. And i assume you arent either? Not saying anyone is using a cheap china product/knockoff/whatever, its common practice to rebrand something from a universal supplier, when the product is functionally identical.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

I mean just saying kies is probably not doing their own design and manufacturing of the wifi adapter. And i assume you arent either? Not saying anyone is using a cheap china product/knockoff/whatever, its common practice to rebrand something from a universal supplier, when the product is functionally identical.

When I was offered the product, I was under the impression everyone was doing their design and manufacturing, and we would copy them. That's why I declined the offer

Fast forward a few months, they might all be designed and manufactured in the same place and rebranded.

I still don't plan on offering a rebranded part under the XPH brand, especially since the Kies one is reasonably priced, and im cool with the guys there.

[n55david]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

When I was offered the product, I was under the impression everyone was doing their design and manufacturing, and we would copy them. That's why I declined the offer

Fast forward a few months, they might all be designed and manufactured in the same place and rebranded.

I still don't plan on offering a rebranded part under the XPH brand, especially since the Kies one is reasonably priced, and im cool with the guys there.

Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

I mean just saying kies is probably not doing their own design and manufacturing of the wifi adapter. And i assume you arent either? Not saying anyone is using a cheap china product/knockoff/whatever, its common practice to rebrand something from a universal supplier, when the product is functionally identical.

Yeah its a company in China that makes all of them. I put a request in for info and pricing. Honestly wasn't that difficult to find.

[johnung]

Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

I mean just saying kies is probably not doing their own design and manufacturing of the wifi adapter. And i assume you arent either? Not saying anyone is using a cheap china product/knockoff/whatever, its common practice to rebrand something from a universal supplier, when the product is functionally identical.

I think of China and some other Asian countries like the wild wild west. The same rules don't apply there. Some companies are above board in their business practices, but many are not. It's not easy to tell who is who, and things can suddenly change.

It seems like relationships are built upon who can make who money without there being any real solid ethical, moral or legal foundation like we are used to. If things go bad, there's not much recourse.

I know a company, not mentioned here, who was doing most of their manufacturing in the US. They were very busy so they decided to outsource one product to a new partner in China who had several high recommendations. So they signed a contract and turned over their manufacturing specs, etc. It was an exclusive arrangement.

They thought it was going well until one of their employees discovered that the Chinese company was also supplying it under another brand name in another world market. They thought that they wouldn't get caught. And even if they did the US company had no real recourse other than to stop doing business with them.

The big US company that my father worked for decades ago had partnered with some Japanese companies. Japan was much more tied in with patent laws and US business practices. They weren't as blatant as Chinese companies today. My father was in charge of manufacturing and warned upper management not to be so open in discussions and not to do tours of their plants. Within 18-24 months the Japanese company introduced a new improved product and filed US patents for it. All totally legal.

They had taken a decades worth of product and manufacturing development knowledge that they had essentially been given for free in a lot of US meetings and factory tours. They used it as a starting basis to create a competing product. Everything that they did was technically legal, the way that they had done it, but not moral or ethical.

The potential profits of doing business with Chinese companies are huge. And US companies know that if they don't take the extra risk, then some competitor might.

[n55david]

Originally Posted by johnung

I think of China and some other Asian countries like the wild wild west. The same rules don't apply there. Some companies are above board in their business practices, but many are not. It's not easy to tell who is who, and things can suddenly change.

It seems like relationships are built upon who can make who money without there being any real solid ethical, moral or legal foundation like we are used to. If things go bad, there's not much recourse.

I know a company, not mentioned here, who was doing most of their manufacturing in the US. They were very busy so they decided to outsource one product to a new partner in China who had several high recommendations. So they signed a contract and turned over their manufacturing specs, etc. It was an exclusive arrangement.

They thought it was going well until one of their employees discovered that the Chinese company was also supplying it under another brand name in another world market. They thought that they wouldn't get caught. And even if they did the US company had no real recourse other than to stop doing business with them.

The big US company that my father worked for decades ago had partnered with some Japanese companies. Japan was much more tied in with patent laws and US business practices. They weren't as blatant as Chinese companies today. My father was in charge of manufacturing and warned upper management not to be so open in discussions and not to do tours of their plants. Within 18-24 months the Japanese company introduced a new improved product and filed US patents for it. All totally legal.

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