[BMWDAD]

Originally Posted by SouthCali335

I am sorry but the 7 speed DCT is no good, and i drove it, and my friend has an M3 with it and the manual is just better, the dct is good for older people or someone that cant drive stick... Who goes out and gets an M3 and in auto anyway? Its like going to get a Z06 auto The only time i would get an auto is on a 1200+ hp drag car with a 3 speed powerglide

I am 60 and never owned an auto except on wifes trucks.

[SouthCali335]

Originally Posted by BMWDAD

I am 60 and never owned an auto except on wifes trucks.

Good man! i meant like really really old then

[shoei]

Originally Posted by Jason4486

Please confirm that the 335 will be getting this upgrade in march. I have not heard this anywhere else.

confirmed... march / april...

- slight refresh on front and rear
- new rims
- tweaked engine from twin turbos on either side of the engine (each turbo currently has their own manifold) to INLINE turbos...
- slight increase in horse and torque...
- DCT will be transmission option...

again, it's CONFIRMED...

[Alessandro]

Originally Posted by shoei

confirmed... march / april...

- slight refresh on front and rear
- new rims
- tweaked engine from twin turbos on either side of the engine (each turbo currently has their own manifold) to INLINE turbos...
- slight increase in horse and torque...
- DCT will be transmission option...

again, it's CONFIRMED...

what is your source?

[Alan l.]

Originally Posted by shoei

confirmed... march / april...

- tweaked engine from twin turbos on either side of the engine (each turbo currently has their own manifold) to INLINE turbos...

[Dan335i]

Originally Posted by MichaelSNU

If the 335i does not come with a 6-speed manual I will be looking elsewhere for a new car. (G37) Good Job BMW

My thoughts exactly!

[2M]

Originally Posted by MichaelSNU

If the 335i does not come with a 6-speed manual I will be looking elsewhere for a new car. (G37) Good Job BMW

so which one of your cars has a manual? your x3 or your 97' camry?

[2M]

Originally Posted by BMWDAD

I am 60 and never owned an auto except on wifes trucks.

damm grandpa you are 60 and have a 6 spd 335 coupe..damm i wish my grandpa was this cool

[stressdoc]

I have yet to meet anyone under thirty that knows how to drive a manual tranny -- rpm-matched double-clutch downshifts etc.
Regardless, OT. Point is, if you want the hot version, you have to pony up for the DCT, which is a great tranny.

[kugasman]

Originally Posted by devo

I don't know what you mean by a six speed being unable to handle the torque? It's the other way around. Yes, manufacturers have been able to built DCT type transmssions that CAN handle great deals of power, but the development has been more involved than a traditional 6 speed manual. (i.e. the PDK gearbox on the 997.2 turbo was delayed in part because of this very reason.)

Actually I think if you look at the specs for most major auto manufactures you'll find that it is the manual transmission that is power (torque) limited compared to the auto. This is one reason that the 335d only comes in auto.

[bmrm396]

Originally Posted by Alessandro

what is your source?

were still talking about the z4 with these "confirmations" right? there is no way this can be confirmed for the 335 as of yet ...

[BMWDAD]

Originally Posted by Alpine3

damm grandpa you are 60 and have a 6 spd 335 coupe..damm i wish my grandpa was this cool

Not a grandpa yet! And you would love to be my son who I surf, MTB and road bike with, and lend him my car. (he is 26)

[2M]

Originally Posted by BMWDAD

Not a grandpa yet! And you would love to be my son who I surf, MTB and road bike with, and lend him my car. (he is 26)

lol i meant no offense at all I'm just saying you sound like a cool guy for your age is all

[ianbiz]

Originally Posted by BMWDAD

Not a grandpa yet! And you would love to be my son who I surf, MTB and road bike with, and lend him my car. (he is 26)

^this dude is cool.

[zenderm3]

Originally Posted by SouthCali335

I am sorry but the 7 speed DCT is no good, and i drove it, and my friend has an M3 with it and the manual is just better, the dct is good for older people or someone that cant drive stick... Who goes out and gets an M3 and in auto anyway? Its like going to get a Z06 auto The only time i would get an auto is on a 1200+ hp drag car with a 3 speed powerglide

SouthCali - I get that you love manual cars - they are great to feel totally immersed in the driving experience. That being said I disagree with your sentiments of DCT. DCT clearly allows the driver and the car to gain the most out of the engine. Yes it does require some getting used to... that being said - it does mean the driver can gain the best from the car.

F1 cars aren't manual, in fact most GT cars are 'DCT-like/sequential gear boxes'.

Anyway - my thoughts

[BMWDAD]

Originally Posted by Alpine3

lol i meant no offense at all I'm just saying you sound like a cool guy for your age is all

No offense taken. Lets get back to talking about the redesigned 3 coming.

I started this thread thinking this engine would come into the 3 at some time.

Really I am hoping for a lighter 3 or 1` (tii?) moving toward more sport than luxury.

If that does not happen I will be looking at Cayman or redesigned RX9

Thanks for the forum fun.

[creepy coupe]

Originally Posted by BMW-NC

I grew up in Germany, drove stick shifts all my life, recently a few auto's, but I would take a DCT over a 6-Speed without a second of hesitation. To all DCT haters: Drive it, then judge it!
And btw: 6-speeds are getting less and less because they cannot keep up with the tourque and use more fuel in EPA cycles to my information.

Another note: the 335is is confirmed and coming in March.

Agree, I own one and would have never entertained a non manual gearbox before I drove the DCT, it's the dogs boll@cks

[GnokGnik]

I love how BMW is humoring us with a 330hp refresh....when the original 07' 335i came with around 330hp anyways lol. Unless they are underrating the 335is as well 330hp would mean somewhere around 360hp.


Anyways, JB3 + N54 = 400-450hp easy so.....

[Schm]

I'm not exactly sure what your talking about, but I doubt that BMW would ever not offer a MT in the 335i. I could take or leave DCT or any dual-clutch flappy paddles, standard transmission will, for me, always be the most fun and offer the most control. On the Z4, I also doubt that they would stop offering the manual in the bigger engine option. However, I really don't know.

[PTinVT]

WTF is "s-drive" - how is this any different from regular RWD? Why bother including this on the badging/marketing on a vehicle where there is no choice of drive wheels?

I'm glad I have a proper 328xi badge and not a ghey "328 i x-drive" :P

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by maswastage

Sounds good, although I wonder how much power it will really make, considering the 335i already makes nearly 330hp at the crank.

On an inflated graph yes

Generally, 305-320 if your really lucky.

[Jed]

Originally Posted by shoei

confirmed... march / april...

- slight refresh on front and rear
- new rims
- tweaked engine from twin turbos on either side of the engine (each turbo currently has their own manifold) to INLINE turbos...
- slight increase in horse and torque...
- DCT will be transmission option...

again, it's CONFIRMED...

This really shouldn't be too big a shock. Generally towards the end of production life, BMW spruces up the line. Like with the E36, the sport package was an M3 body kit and steering wheel and with the E46 the 330i/Ci/CiC offered the ZHP. Helps to maintain the sales.