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I have a 2014 F32 w/MPPK and M Perf exhaust. It's not under warranty. My understanding is that all-in-all my car makes 325-330hp since the non-MPPK 435i makes 300. I recently added a Dinan CAI and the throttle response is amazing. Dinan states +10hp/+15trq without additional mods, so I should be now at the 335-340hp range.
I'm not sure which product would give me better top-up power using 91 or 93 Oct. pump fuel (in addition to the MPPK) and whether the flash modules would bypass MPPK. What suggestions do you guys have to add more power? - The new Dinan flash stage 2 needing IC and turbo upgrade - MHD 2+ needing IC, CP and DP? - JB+ or JB4? Did I understand correctly that JB+ is a piggyback module? Does the same apply for JB4? |
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First, all i will say about the Dinan is that I'm glad you have had a positive experience thus far but that's not the same for everyone. Hopefully it continues to hold true. Its questionable whether its adding the power you quoted, though, regardless of what dinan states, especially on a stock(MPPK) load-based tune. Anyways, i have a review on intakes here, but i digress: https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1765289 For flash tunes, you basically choose MHD or BM3. There's no reason really to get the Dinan flash if you aren't in warranty. You can read 100s of pages on BM3 and MHD in their respective threads. There's also a recent thread on the new Dinan flash, but little to no users (on here at least), and basically zero data since the tune does not come with datalogging capabilities. For the Dinan, you are basically just paying for the name behind it, so take that FWIW. BM3 and MHD are both well established tunes on this platform, and you can't really go wrong with either. In a nutshell, if you want to squeeze the most power out of your hardware and want continued development of new functionality, BM3 is the way to go. If you want a slightly more conservative tune that is load-based like the stock tune and simply just works, go with MHD (this is in no way saying BM3 doesn't work, but something can be said for having to potentially troubleshoot when new releases come out, etc). BM3 is currently the only one that offers a OTS map for upgraded HPFP and ethanol mixes, if that matters at all to you. On pump gas, both offer very similar power potential with their OTS maps, with BM3 maybe taking a slight edge. All of these tunes are going to require hardware upgrades. CP is required even without a tune. A stage 2 (BM3) or 2+ (MHD) tune will require IC and DP in addition. IMO there's not really any reason to consider a JB4 in this day and age unless you need it for a specific reason - i.e., meth control or your own boost control, with a BEF. Based on the questions you asked, this is probably not something you are interested in. JB+ and JB4 are both piggybacks, you just plug them in, and you dont flash the DME. JB+ is just a boost controller, which is what you can technically "stack" with MPPK, but this is frankly an outdated way to make power with MHD and BM3 OTS maps available. TLDR: Pick MHD or BM3 - read up on each and make a decision. Then research what company(ies) you want to go with for your IC+CP+DP, install, then flash the tune for your fuel available. Datalog at each step of the way to make sure all is well. |
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I stacked MPPK, BM3, MHD and JB4. Car has 800hp now. Will be stacking the ESS Power box later to reach 1000hp
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01-12-2021, 05:28 AM | #29 |
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Stock HPFP too!
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Without knowing how advanced the JB+ is - you might actually be able to stack that on a flash tune. As far as I know it just add 2psi to what ever DME target is
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I thought about doing this with JB+ and MHD E20 map if i were to upgrade HPFP, like a cheap equivalent to BM3 stage 2+ tune, before going custom.
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I'd love to see that
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For the price, get the Dinan thing. Buy a used one. You can always remove and sell it later (I bought mine used). I think you'll like it. I run mine in "Race" mode with 93 octane, and blew up the charge pipe a few months ago. Replaced under warranty (obvs I removed the DS before I took it in). The only complaint I have is that the iOS app is crap; it's fine for switching modes but the boost gauge stops working within a minute. Not a big deal. You ARE talking about this thing right?
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And...? He's certainly not the only one out there who has this question.
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For those who have installed the Dinan Stage 1 or Dinan Sport Tuner, have you had any issues with check engine lights coming on or anything? Thinking about pulling the trigger on one of them.
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Go straight to bootmod3, don't even mess with the piggybacks.
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I understand that, I just don't want to void my warranty.
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lol! Yeah I know!
I do plan on doing bootmod3 once my warranty is out but not right now.
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I hear ya man. I did the same thing honestly. It's a waste of money. Put it into suspension would be my advice.
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