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The switch to the ZF8 occurred with the just introduced B9 S4/5s. All B8 S4/5s were offered with either a 6MT or DCT.
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Thats funny. I had a 335 e92 that had endless issues. I got rid of it before lease end it was so bad. Couldnt trust it. Ive had 6 Audis. Last one had about 70,000 miles on it and I don't think I even replaced a light bulb. Every manufacturer will have issues of some sort. Love the "nose heavy chick" line. Is that what makes it handle so well? |
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I heard. They claimed that their DCT couldn't handle the power of the new S4.
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I bought the 335i because it was the most balanced car in my price range and got better MPG than the S4. Stating that android auto was the only thing separating both cars is incorrect. As I stated earlier, the 3 series that I drove (2014 335i, 2015 328is) were louder cars in both road noise and engine noise. You had made the statement that the 340 was quieter but I haven't experienced that for myself. The handling in my opinion is sloppy unless in sport mode. The tech still feels half finished in my opinion but thats completely subjective. The interior still feels cheap when compared to an A4 as well. Again these are all my opinions based on previous experiences with multiple cars. |
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Especially since the 2016 models have improvements in steering, suspension and sound dampening. Also the 2017 model F30 would be a 330i with has a new engine. You also made the claim that all 3 series are less refined compared to earlier Audis. That just sounds like fanboy trolling to be honest. Quote:
Exactly! Then your entire premise that the 2017 Audi is a better car is flawed because you haven't driven or experienced the newer BMWs. Doh! Setting it to comfort makes it not sporty? Say what? Again not the same suspension as the 2016 LCI models. http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1124143 These are the improvements in the LCI models" Improved Performance: New Chassis setup for significantly improved steering, braking and handling New, stiffer Front Strut Towers New Rear Damper Technology New Electric power steering Enhanced Steptronic Automatic Transmission 5 Suspension Anchor Points vs. 3 Your opinion is based on cars that are older and don't have those changes. How is that relevant in a 2017 A4 vs 2017 F30 conversation? Quote:
LCI Changes: Interior Chrome Accents surrounding the Front and Rear Air vents Chrome Accent near buttons for electric windows Improved Navigation Unit: new hardware, better performance, faster start-up of navigation and Voice Command, navigation map update over the air, more realistic presentation of city details New standard wood trim: Fineline Anthracite Wood Trim with Pearl Gloss chrome highlight trim Door accents according to trim accent (similar to 3 Series GT and 4-Series Models) Improved Child Seat handling Center-stack changes: High-gloss black Pearlescent chrome applications for radio/climate control Revised Automatic climate control display: white (vs. orange) Ambient lighting surrounding the center-stack Sliding cover for cup holders All well and good. but when some one is comparing a 2017 model opinions on older cars are not really relevant. Last edited by oarnura; 04-05-2017 at 04:01 PM.. |
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Classic debate. Like apple vs android, mac vs pc. We can compare the details to the nth degree but I think most of us chose what we chose based on a more fundamental 'gut' feeling..
You don't count the calories and study the nutritional values every time you go for lunch do you? The numbers can stack up but if don't feel right, it probably isn't right. For you. I test drove both. The 3 got me the moment I went round the corner. Can't explain it, it's like love at first sight. I'm sure the A4 owners here saw something unique to them. To each of its own. Both stunning cars. No one is better than the other in my opinion. |
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For a daily driver I was looking more for comfort and refinement over sportiness. For me, the A4 won that hands down. The fun-to-drive factor is a little better in the F30. For those of you into tech, 2014 iDrive is far superior to 2014 MMI (comparing top levels of both). In the end, they're both great cars with different strengths and weaknesses and I like them both. For my needs, I just liked one a little more than the other. YMMV.
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I was torn between the new s4 and a 340i. I was coming from a b8 s4 that I owned for 3 years.
I went to both dealers and checked them out. Ended up going with a 2017 340i m performance edition which is basically loaded to the max. Has a ton of m performance parts and looks way more aggressive. After I made the purchase went back to Audi and scoped the s4 again and the look was just to ordinary for me. Thought I'd have some buyer remorse but I had none at all. It could be the fact that I owned an Audi before and just needed a change. The one big thing I notice is the driving dynamics, the Bmw is so much more fun in the corners. A completely different car, almost feels rwd even though it's an xdrive. The Audi pushed through the corners and it had the sport differential. Can't say I'd go back to Audi unless an rs4 hits America. And if there was an awd m3 I'd still go with Bmw
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I agree that the new S4 is pretty unaggressive in styling. But personally, there's no way I'd buy a new F30 within a year of its replacement. I'd either get the new B9 S4 or wait for the new 2019 G20 3-series.
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What sold me was the new b58 engine, the extensively revamped suspension and mppsk package. I'm really excited to see the new 3 series. If they have an awd m340i I'll be very tempted to upgrade in 2 years.
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Even though I would probably take a loss, I'd also consider upgrading to a G20/m340 within the next few years depending on what the final model/packages look like. I'm also considering (when you really think about price) just going for an M3 instead 3 years from now. |
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People keep wondering why anyone would get a 340i that costs 5-7000 less than an m3, for me it's all about awd.
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Right, coming from AWD myself and living in the mid Atlantic you have about 5-6 months out of the year where it's extremely handy--I'd say your location is way more crucial than mine to have the added traction. Unless you have a beater you can use for those months (I don't cause I dump all my money into the fun car), IMO you're making the right move. Investing in a beater truck is my project later this year
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The new A4 is fantastic. New engine for this year is super quick.
I went in for a test drive and they did not have a manual in stock -- So, I went to BMW and they have a M/T That's why I went with BMW... But all things being equal, I'd prob pick the A4 -- kills BMW on technology and interior quality. My 435i doesn't even stand on a leg compared to an equally equipped A4 / S4
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Yea I love my 335 msport and its almost 10 yrs old w/o issues. In a couple years I'll be looking for a new ride and I have no reservations at crossing over to audi. I'm a techie so Audi has nailed the gadgets +android and the interior. Bmw wins the exterior, but I'm sure you could 'dress' both up.
These 2 go back and forth every generation. It's just about that test drive and what speaks to you when you do a walk around and get behind the wheel. I'm Bmw at heart, so the first vehicle i'll check will be a 340 w/ that b58 and then i'll check out the competition. Quote:
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How did the A4's engine/performance feel compared to your 435?
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I live on the snow belt in South Western Ontario and the snow removal in my area is an absolute disaster. Even with winter tires and AWD, it sometimes feels like I'm sledding around. Might be a different story if I had a wealth of garage space - which unfortunately I do not |
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