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      09-22-2019, 11:37 AM   #1
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Labour - what’s their game plan?

So this weekend they want to remove Ofsted and abolish private schools.

Trying to oust Tom Watson, who arguably is the most sane one out of the lot of them.

Very strange as I have no idea who they are now trying to appeal to, who is their target voter?

I honestly think they could become the third even 4th largest party after this next general election!

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"Very strange as I have no idea who they are now trying to appeal to, who is their target voter?"

Very left wing nutters that will ruin the country. Thats who.
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Agree with both posts. Bizarrely I think they’re actually more concerned with holding a hard left set of principals that they’re unprepared to compromise on, even if it makes them unelectable. I’d put £50 on the Lib Dem’s overtaking them at the next election.
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For the top leadership of the party, it's all about purity of ideology, which is actually more important to them than gaining power.
The more they pursue this approach, the more they haemorrhage support from their moderate centre - and the more unelectable they become.
I, for one, am shedding no tears.
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Bunch of total cnuts.
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So this weekend they want to remove Ofsted and abolish private schools.

Trying to oust Tom Watson, who arguably is the most sane one out of the lot of them.

Very strange as I have no idea who they are now trying to appeal to, who is their target voter?

I honestly think they could become the third even 4th largest party after this next general election!

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They have also apparently decided to make a decision on whether to be pro remain after a general election...

Right so... please vote for us, we are going to tax you to hell, and we might still take you out of Europe to double the pain.

Deluded....
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+ the thing about all large companies will need to give equity to its employees. I've not read it in detail but on the face of it, why would any large company base themselves in the UK if that was so.
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It's a massive planned seizure of private assets across schools, businesses and individuals. I'm actually at the point where I think it might be a good thing that they keep coming up with this garbage. No one in their right mind will vote for them. I'd be delighted if the Lib Dem's overtake them.
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Much as I have no love whatsoever for the Labour party, have never voted for them and can't ever imagine voting for them, I am concerned at how unelectable they've become, as it just means the Conservatives can't be held to account, and we get the worst version of them, and that's not good for anyone.
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It's a massive planned seizure of private assets across schools, businesses and individuals. I'm actually at the point where I think it might be a good thing that they keep coming up with this garbage. No one in their right mind will vote for them. I'd be delighted if the Lib Dem's overtake them.
This ^^
Corbyn's planned policies on land and property amount to theft/confiscation by the state. F***ing scary stuff. Suspect most Labour supporters haven't read his Marxist garbage - will feel a lot less happy when they have to pay garden tax, plus all the other increases planned to pay for renationalisation of utilities and transport, abolition/integration of private schools etc etc
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They haven't a clue what to do, they know they haven't a clue, so they come up with some headline grabbing BS to make sure no one with an IQ above 5 will ever vote for them.
They can spout all the shite they want then with no fear that they'll actually have to follow through with any of it.....

Lib Dems are going to blow them out of the water this time around. I think they'll attract anyone who thinks Brexit is a mistake, both from Tories and Labour, they might well shit themselves when they win
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Suspect most Labour supporters can't read
Sorted it for you
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Policies being created in an echo chamber of hard left socialists. Modelled on their leader labour will merely be a protest party....
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Scary stuff, even more "looney" is behind the scenes the total nutters they can't let in front of the cameras who come up with this class warfare nonsense.

There is a huge hole in the middle of our politics, we need a new centrist party, we have the hedge fund supported ERG on one side and the Marxist loons on the other supported by the TUC.

It's an utter nightmare.
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Much as I have no love whatsoever for the Labour party, have never voted for them and can't ever imagine voting for them, I am concerned at how unelectable they've become, as it just means the Conservatives can't be held to account, and we get the worst version of them, and that's not good for anyone.
Totally agree, an ineffective opposition isn't a good thing.
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I've been trying to understand what is the purpose of Momentum, is it a glorified Corbyn fan club or something more insidious? If it is just a fan club did Blair have something similar, I guess not as he did at least have some charisma. If it's more than that what is their objective? Makes you wonder if policy is being decided by politicians or wannabe fanboys.
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I've been trying to understand what is the purpose of Momentum, is it a glorified Corbyn fan club or something more insidious? If it is just a fan club did Blair have something similar, I guess not as he did at least have some charisma. If it's more than that what is their objective? Makes you wonder if policy is being decided by politicians or wannabe fanboys.
They are in control of the Labour party and its polices hence the rampant anti-Semitism, Hugo Chavez policy platforms and the constant attempts to deselect any MP who dares to challenge them. (think militant tendency in the 80's) unfortunately they have grabbed control of the party via the leadership and the NEC, whereas militant never got to the top table.

Their objective is to run the UK into the ground, sorry I meant live in a Marxist utopia.

The likes of Seumas Milne pull Corbyn's strings, a very dangerous man.
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I wonder how many voters amoungst us would normally vote Labour but would not given their recent (and non-recent) policy announcements OR will still vote Labour. Many posts above are rediculing the policies and this may be why not many post in support.
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I wonder how many voters amoungst us would normally vote Labour but would not given their recent (and non-recent) policy announcements OR will still vote Labour. Many posts above are rediculing the policies and this may be why not many post in support.
Happy to admit I have voted labour in the past, during the Blair years. I am naturally a shade left of centre. But there is a world of difference between a fundamentally capitalist society moderated by progressive policies on social justice, investment in public services etc., and a bunch of loons who think the wealth conjures itself and that all property and assets belong to the state, for incompetent ideologues to redistribute as they see fit.
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I wonder how many voters amoungst us would normally vote Labour but would not given their recent (and non-recent) policy announcements OR will still vote Labour. Many posts above are rediculing the policies and this may be why not many post in support.
I don't know anyone who supports Corbyn and his cabal. I know plenty of ex-Labour voters who cannot vote Labour whilst he and the far left are running the party, including former paid up members who have now left the party.
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Much as I have no love whatsoever for the Labour party, have never voted for them and can't ever imagine voting for them, I am concerned at how unelectable they've become, as it just means the Conservatives can't be held to account, and we get the worst version of them, and that's not good for anyone.
Of course this is right. For me it's just that, given how far away from the centre Labour have drifted, I'd rather people saw just how extreme their policies are, instead of sleepwalking into voting for them based on slogans, and being shocked once they were in power.
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I wonder how many voters amoungst us would normally vote Labour but would not given their recent (and non-recent) policy announcements OR will still vote Labour. Many posts above are rediculing the policies and this may be why not many post in support.
Blair was a red tory, which I zero issues with, I'd vote for Blairite style labour party in the current mess we're in.

The Ch4 doc on the Tories last night was very insightful, I like Alan Duncan.
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