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      05-03-2016, 11:45 AM   #1
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F30 idrive controller upgrade problem

I tried to upgrade my basic idrive controller with the non-touch idrive nbt controller as you can see on the pictures. I thought this would be a plug and play upgrade i guess i am wrong. my car is 2013 and currently upgraded my hu_entry with hu_entrynav and the year for hu_entrynav is also 2015 like the controller i am trying to use. what should i do to make it work?
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Hi Gotomoto,

Search for a parameter ZBE_HIGH and change the value from FALSE to TRUE.

Was your HU_ENTRY replacement with HU_ENTRYNAV plug&play or did you code something to get it working?

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I tried to upgrade my basic idrive controller with the non-touch idrive nbt controller as you can see on the pictures. I thought this would be a plug and play upgrade i guess i am wrong. my car is 2013 and currently upgraded my hu_entry with hu_entrynav and the year for hu_entrynav is also 2015 like the controller i am trying to use. what should i do to make it work?
Rewire it from to Kcan to KCan2.
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Rewire it from to Kcan to KCan2.
Thanks Shawn. Sorry I am pretty new at this so how can I do that exactly?
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Hi Gotomoto,

Search for a parameter ZBE_HIGH and change the value from FALSE to TRUE.

Was your HU_ENTRY replacement with HU_ENTRYNAV plug&play or did you code something to get it working?

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Thank you. I had to do some coding to get the hu_entrynav work. where do you think zbe_high is under?
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Rewire it from to Kcan to KCan2.
Is this what i gotta do?
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Is this what i gotta do?
Yep, tap into lines 9 and 11 for the BODY_CAN network on the quadlock of your head unit.

I wouldn't do it with your original harness though. Try to get a pass through adapter so you don't need to end up splicing your original quad lock. Those wires are way too thin.
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Is this what i gotta do?
ZBE Pins:
1-12V => Pin 15 NBT
2-GND => Pin 12 NBT
3-CAN2-H => Pin 11 NBT
4-CAN2-L => Pin 09 NBT
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ZBE Pins:
1-12V => Pin 15 NBT
2-GND => Pin 12 NBT
3-CAN2-H => Pin 11 NBT
4-CAN2-L => Pin 09 NBT

ok one last question... i hope

can i just follow the cables from the zbe connector and reconnect them to correct pins on the nbt quad connector? or the current ones don't go there so i need to use new cables?
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ok one last question... i hope

can i just follow the cables from the zbe connector and reconnect them to correct pins on the nbt quad connector? or the current ones don't go there so i need to use new cables?
Current ones don't go to NBT.
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Current ones don't go to NBT.
okay. by the way by nbt you mean the hu_entrynav right? i dont have the hu_nbt unit.
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okay. by the way by nbt you mean the hu_entrynav right? i dont have the hu_nbt unit.
Yes, although I never looked at Pinout for ENTRYNAV before, I would expect KCAN2 Pins to be the same.
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Hi all

you can install idriver touch in hu_entrynav????
I missed a chapter!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hi all

you can install idriver touch in hu_entrynav????
I missed a chapter!!!!!!!!!!!!!
don't get mad mate. this is not zbe_touch. this one is the zbe_high controller. you didn't miss anything
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ZBE Pins:
1-12V => Pin 15 NBT
2-GND => Pin 12 NBT
3-CAN2-H => Pin 11 NBT
4-CAN2-L => Pin 09 NBT
I did the exact same cabling. my basic controller is fine but the controller i am trying to use still doesn't work. i guess the controller i got is broken.
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Is it true that the colour of the cable connector provides information what k-can type is at the controller?
Blue=KCan1
Black=KCan2

Can somebody confirm this?
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Is it true that the colour of the cable connector provides information what k-can type is at the controller?
Blue=KCan1
Black=KCan2

Can somebody confirm this?
No one?
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It seems that this info is wrong. Today I mounted The Touch controller. My car has The Blue connector and The new controller works perfect.
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Hi all

you can install idriver touch in hu_entrynav????
Yes, you can do it.
You need to add the touch ECU.
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Yes, you can do it.
You need to add the touch ECU.
Thanks . Thanks. Next retrofit.
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Yes, you can do it.
You need to add the touch ECU.
Do you need to add touch ecu in h_nbt too?
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I did the exact same cabling. my basic controller is fine but the controller i am trying to use still doesn't work. i guess the controller i got is broken.
Gotomoto,
have you already fixed your problem?

I have the same story now...
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