[52172]

Originally Posted by 1QuikWS6

Sorry, but I'm gonna have to say, it takes either a ton of arrogance, or poor sales technique, to release a brand new product (esp. something as critical as the HPFP on an expensive engine) to the market with:

• No pictures of the actual part (a box is shown on their site) for both the currently released B58 pump & the upcoming N55 release
  
• No 3rd party independent Flow Charts of the pump with pressure/volume vs. RPM to backup their claims
  
• No dyno charts showing pump in action
  
• No PDF of Install instructions to realize install difficulty & the claims of '100% PnP'

Even if the company is accredited for quality versions for other cars - this is a totally new product, with no real time history in real use...


This is even more important when said company is asking $$ ahead of time of actual release. I would much rather (& gladly) pay the xtra $200 - months, or 1 yr later, once it has had reviews, more real life data/experience available, & a chance to fix any bugs that arise.

It may turn out to be a great high quality/reliable part, but I'm not gambling my expensive engine for a crummy 200 bucks


I mean REALLY - not even a picture WTF????

Exactly no reason to take it easy your right.

[XxThe_RemedyXx]

Originally Posted by JaredG_F30

That's pretty damn good considering the Bosch HDP6 (B58TU) is $1300 new. I just contacted a local salvage yard that sells used car parts to see if they have any BMWs or MINIs that use the HDP6 (BMW 13518631642) in their yard. I may go pull the part myself if I can get it on the cheap.


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7' G11 LCI   (01/2018 — 04/2019)
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Is this pump comparable to SP and XDI pumps as far as performance? Looks like it's on sale:

https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...mp-13518631642

[my335i403]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/8631642-BMW-X1-F48-X2-F39-20iX-192PS-High-Pressure-Pump-Petrol-Pump-Fuel-Pump/264601888125?_mwBanner=1&ul_ref=https%3A%2F%2Frove r.ebay.com%2Frover%2F0%2Fe11021.m43.l3160%2F7%3Feu id%3D6d970389164e4c0180822f50ddf94754%26bu%3D43869 071499%26ut%3DRU%26loc%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.e bay.com%252Fulk%252Fitm%252F264601888125%26sojTags %3Dbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%26srcrot%3De11021.m43.l3160%2 6rvr_id%3D0%26rvr_ts%3Dba8e37e216f0ac3c22c361d2fff 5b636&ul_noapp=true&pageci=77d9c204-fd84-445a-919d-07aafd31f252

I bought an xdi, but get alerts for the pump in this thread from ebay
Hope this helps someone

[my335i403]

8631642 search it on ebay, one for sale

[n55david]

Originally Posted by my335i403

8631642 search it on ebay, one for sale

What needs to be done to run that pump?

[T_H_O_M_A_S]

read some pages in this thread .

[e38740imd]

dam 23 pages is alot to read

[AngelFarelli]

This is for f87 but applies here as well

Bmw F series N55 HPFP upgrades https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1685365

[T_H_O_M_A_S]

Originally Posted by e38740imd

dam 23 pages is alot to read

if the intrest is there , 23 pages is nothing , its covers everything you need ,ive explained it all with pictures and logs .

been running the hdp6 flawless , best upgrade to the car for 500 usd

[Tdehaney98]

Cheaper solutions as coming much sooner

[e38740imd]

Originally Posted by T_H_O_M_A_S

if the intrest is there , 23 pages is nothing , its covers everything you need ,ive explained it all with pictures and logs .

been running the hdp6 flawless , best upgrade to the car for 500 usd

i read more than that when im at work. i love the threads as there is quite comical content.

but reading the 160+ pages of the mhd and bm3 discussion threads is crazy when you wanna fin the answer to one small question lol

i wont be upgrading my hpfp as it not necessary for me at this time. but will find and read the info you have here some where here

[T_H_O_M_A_S]

Originally Posted by e38740imd

i read more than that when im at work. i love the threads as there is quite comical content.

but reading the 160+ pages of the mhd and bm3 discussion threads is crazy when you wanna fin the answer to one small question lol

i wont be upgrading my hpfp as it not necessary for me at this time. but will find and read the info you have here some where here

people ask the same questions over and over for their own cause . other people start quoting , double triple quad quoting the same over and over . thats how you end up with 160 pages , prolly 80 percent is obsolete

[ZM2]

Originally Posted by 1QuikWS6

Sorry, but I'm gonna have to say, it takes either a ton of arrogance, or poor sales technique, to release a brand new product (esp. something as critical as the HPFP on an expensive engine) to the market with:

• No pictures of the actual part (a box is shown on their site) for both the currently released B58 pump & the upcoming N55 release
  
• No 3rd party independent Flow Charts of the pump with pressure/volume vs. RPM to backup their claims
  
• No dyno charts showing pump in action
  
• No PDF of Install instructions to realize install difficulty & the claims of '100% PnP'

Even if the company is accredited for quality versions for other cars - this is a totally new product, with no real time history in real use...


This is even more important when said company is asking $$ ahead of time of actual release. I would much rather (& gladly) pay the xtra $200 - months, or 1 yr later, once it has had reviews, more real life data/experience available, & a chance to fix any bugs that arise.

It may turn out to be a great high quality/reliable part, but I'm not gambling my expensive engine for a crummy 200 bucks


I mean REALLY - not even a picture WTF????

At least they have a pic for you now: https://dorchengineering.com/shop/

[ChrisFulton]

Originally Posted by ZM2

At least they have a pic for you now: https://dorchengineering.com/shop/

Dorch Engineering now has an option offering similar flow rates at $700 less than TTFS & $400 less than Spool?

[1QuikWS6]

Originally Posted by ZM2

At least they have a pic for you now: https://dorchengineering.com/shop/

It didn't go unnoticed

I'd still like to see some install instructions

[ronanz]

Originally Posted by 1QuikWS6

It didn't go unnoticed

I'd still like to see some install instructions

There are several YouTube B58 and XDI install DIY’s available. Install is the same...

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[ChrisFulton]

Emailed Dorch Engineering about fitment for my car model and other info.
They replied the same day.
They are in final stages of beta testing and MHD checkbox should be ready from Dorch by the end of February (MHD's schedule will determine ultimate release date), pump has lifetime warranty to the original purchaser.

[ZM2]

Originally Posted by ChrisFulton

Emailed Dorch Engineering about fitment for my car model and other info.
They replied the same day.
They are in final stages of beta testing and MHD checkbox should be ready from Dorch by the end of February (MHD's schedule will determine ultimate release date), pump has lifetime warranty to the original purchaser.

Gotta love a lifetime warranty, assuming they stay in biz that long.

I saw their B58 HPFP is now supported in BM3. Anyone heard from Dorch or PTF on a timeline for the N55 pump support in BM3? I assume there will be different selection choices for Stage 1 & 2 HPFP’s, as well, just like XDI 35 & 60?

[ronanz]

Originally Posted by ZM2

Gotta love a lifetime warranty, assuming they stay in biz that long.

I saw their B58 HPFP is now supported in BM3. Anyone heard from Dorch or PTF on a timeline for the N55 pump support in BM3? I assume there will be different selection choices for Stage 1 & 2 HPFP’s, as well, just like XDI 35 & 60?

PTF has the N55 calibration files, support will be available soon. Don’t believe S1-S2 pumps will require separate support (believe Dezen stated this when I asked on his FB post).

My S2 is on the way .

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[ChrisFulton]

Originally Posted by ronanz

My S2 is on the way .

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Please keep us posted on your impressions and experience. I am interested in this option. Cheers.

[ZM2]

Originally Posted by ronanz

PTF has the N55 calibration files, support will be available soon. Don’t believe S1-S2 pumps will require separate support (believe Dezen stated this when I asked on his FB post).

My S2 is on the way .

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Call me crazy, but I think I’ll go Stage 1 and E40-50 for my Dinan turbo, and maybe I can just get a 2H map from Halim for now.

Then do a PS2 upgrade next year and more involved E40-50 dyno tuning, but still keep power levels lower (440-450whp) to help deal with heat issues on hot summer track days.

Seems like Stage 1 will be enough for that.

[ronanz]

Originally Posted by ZM2

Call me crazy, but I think I’ll go Stage 1 with an E40-50 tune for my Dinan turbo and maybe I can just get a 2H map from Halim for now.

Then do a PS2 upgrade next year and more involved dyno tuning, but still keep power levels lower (440-450whp) to help deal with heat issues on hot summer track days.

Seems like Stage 1 will be enough for that.

If your realistic goal is the PureT S2 route, S1 HPFP will be perfect. Anything over 550whp, you should consider S2 for the headroom.

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