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      10-28-2015, 12:29 AM   #1
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New Mazda RX concept

http://jalopnik.com/the-mazda-rx-vis...pow-1739072044
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Beautiful concept from Mazda. If they can produce a semi reliable rotary and keep the weight close to what a Miata is, I'd be very interested in picking one up for track days!
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      10-28-2015, 06:18 AM   #3
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All I see is a AMG GT clone. meh
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Curious that they went with the long hood when the rotary package doesn't need it.
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      10-28-2015, 07:01 AM   #6
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Needs a 3 rotor and twin turbos to perform as good as it looks, then one has to consider emissions and mpg, oh and reliability, which has been laughable in the Rx line since the FD. If they can overcome these hurdles and produce the car I'm curious how much it would actually cost.
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IF Mazda goes back to producing an RX, it really needs to re-visit the spirit of the original. That car was very comparable to the Miata: small, light, relatively simple, easily track-able. It didn't need its long-ish hood (That was more of a styling response to the original cheap sports car, the Datsun 280z, than a packaging necessity for the Wankel powerplant), and the engine itself was about the size of a mini-fridge.

The issues with them is oil consumption (and, thus, emissions) and a much bigger one: cooling. A three-rotor Wankel is a design impracticality for a production car and just isn't practical for stop-and-go driving because it's virtually impossible to keep the center rotor cool. A Wankel engine only has four moving parts; reliability isn't really the issue (That's also why older RX-7s are very popular track cars and SCCA race cars); it's power production and reasonable operating temperatures ... which is another reason to make a new RX a smaller, lighter car in which gobs of power are not really needed.
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Love it, my childhood dream car was the 1993 RX7 and this is worthy of a replacement. Not a fan of the RX-8, no turbo = low torque.

I believe Mazda is doing well, so they will potentially make this a reality. Like most Japanese companies though, it will be a 10yr wait for this car to come out. We'll have flying cars by then. =(
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All I see is a AMG GT clone. meh
Dunno, I see more DB10 in it.
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Looks great. But they won't produce it, if they do it will look nothing like that.
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      10-28-2015, 01:33 PM   #12
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Stunning. If the production model is smaller with a reasonably torquey engine, I may have just found my next car.
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Stunning. If the production model is smaller with a reasonably torquey engine, I may have just found my next car.
Wankels and torque are about as mutually exclusive as oil and water. There's a reason they are built to rev to 9K rpms-plus. The design just doesn't produce it nearly as effectively as a piston on a rod. Less rotating mass, less inertia, smaller and flatter combustion chambers.

Keep looking.
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Yah I get ya, which is why I chose a 350Z over an Rx8 back in the day

but there are snippets in the autocar article which give me hope about at least decent torque:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/mo...ncept-revealed
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Yeah, targeting the Cayman, maybe around 300bhp, but less weight. Turbocharging and hybridization listed as ways to get there. Guess we'll have to wait and see. If its light, 300 is all we'd need.
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I see a lot of Aston Martin. You fill in this outline and it's basically an Aston headlight.
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I hoped that an RX (or any badass production car) would come out from the Furai concept. I like this RX but it looks too fancy for my liking.
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They will never build it.

And hopefully they never build another shitty rotary. FD was such a great car plagued by such an awful sounding, very unreliable, torqueless POS rotary. 50k miles = time for a rebuild. Don't forget to add oil (or do a pre-mix...because it might as well be a two stroke).

I'd venture to say for any car made post 1980, the RX7 has by far the highest percentage of motor swaps to a different manufacturer (mostly GM and Ford V8's) than any other car made.
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All my god. I love it. Awesome.
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