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Dynojet Mustang 2 diff dynos 2 diff cars Both N55s
Top dyno graph dyno jet BM3 2014 335i XDrive EWG BM3 stage 2 OTS 93 octane tune BMS Intake ER CP Wagner Evo2 Competition IC ER catless DP AWE catback Stock turbo Active dyno cars: F30 335 Stock (With Downpipe) vs Active Autowerke OBD Flash Stage 2 +65whp / +109wtq (notice how important a quality FMIC is to this car. it loses a lot of power after 5500 RPM) Top dyno power curve and numbers very similar to bottom graph Mike posted and this car has more mods and is on a dynojet. Still do not know what gear,psi or temperature of environment. Ill assume the car in Mike's graph was dynoed in South Florida. Active on mustang dyno
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Nice!
How does the logs look like? What does the MAP sensor and timing read? Edit: Ohhh...not your car?
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Seems like the aa is going to be a moreful tune (mustang dyno)
Edit. Actuslly one is xdrive. So it's hard to know Quote:
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02-24-2018, 11:32 AM | #180 |
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Im mostly just looking at the power curves.
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I do agree the turbo is running out of efficiency at these power levels given the 93 octane and stock turbo. However in this situation the high boost and lack of oversized intercooler really hurt on this run. We saw temps of 188f deg at the manifold with a ambient temp of 76F deg. These are some of of the highest I have seen on the dyno. So will a intercooler keep making power? Most likely not but it will reduce the the power being lost up top and give you a smoother curve overall. Unfortunately we were not able to get the car back on the dyno after we installed our Step core intercooler on this car but, we have logged our M2 before and after with a 40 deg drop in temp compared to the stock intercooler. Install takes roughly 30 min which makes it a no brainer. Last edited by SflBimmer8484; 02-28-2018 at 12:01 PM.. |
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I agree with you on the dyno comments, it is 100% possible to skew numbers with a Mustang, but that's something we simply don't do. If I wanted to mess with the readings, I would have done a 3rd or 4th gear pull to get lower IATs and more ignition timing (which would keep the power from falling as much up top) and then adjusted the weather parameters in the software to get the peak number I wanted in order to have a very pretty dyno to post. We dyno all of the cars here in higher gears with added load to try and match actual driving conditions. The same car with our flash on a Dynojet will never produce lower numbers than on our Mustang. Hopefully we'll see some independent results posted here soon. We're engineers before we're programmers, so we have more R&D invested on the dyno modifying the core of the actual tune as opposed to the protocols and tools used to implement it. The tune you receive from us is guaranteed not to be the same as any other tuner. We aren't selling the same OTS maps that many companies are purchasing and selling as their own. |
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I can't wait to load the SW stay tuned
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Also, one potential "leg-up" BM3 and MHD seem to have is built-in logging capabilities. Any plans of implementing that with the Simon3? I think that the offer of 4 custom maps included in your package is great, and part of the reason I went with AA, but without direct logging capabilities, it makes it kind of moot unless I can get onto a dyno to do some logged runs (added cost). Idk, these are just my thoughts as someone new to the tuning realm. Am I wrong? Last quick question relating to flash tunes. I'm currently on a 91oct map, I know I can request an E30 map if I want to run an E85 mix, but the question is, when would I flash the new map? Before or after filling a few gallons of E85? I don't think it'd be realistic to flash the map at the gas station, so either I'd be running the E30 map on 91oct gas on my way to the station, or I'd be running an E30 mix on the 91oct map on my way home from the station. Nearest Propel station is around 20 miles away from where I live.
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That's good news. One question though, how are we to know when there are map updates available?
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As part of the suggestions from AA as my turbo approaches 20psi, is the recommendation to swap out the TMAP 3.0bar stock sensor for a 3.5 or higher.
I wanted to share the recommendations and the DIY, though for this crowd, the DIY really isn't needed.. crazy simple.
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Super! Thanks again!
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afaik N55 both MAP and TMAP are 255kpa, which is 2.55bar absolute. correct me if I'm wrong.
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The part number is 13627843531.
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That P/N is listed as MAP for N20 & N54 - is that correct?
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that is correct.. there isn't a 3.5 or 4 bar TMAP for the N55, but you can use the sensors from other motors. Part number was confirmed by AA, plus ECS Tuning (where I got it) lists it as the upgrade for the N55 with higher turbos.
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