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      11-21-2018, 04:15 PM   #23
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Dealers charge $125 an hour, so that would be 16 hours of labor. Do you really think a turbo swap on this car is quoted that high? I would be curious to know what amount of labor hours BMW has listed for this job.
I think it very well could be. The reason I say that is every little thing adds up, for instance, in the install you have to:

- Remove the wheels
- Remove wheel liners
- Remove Bumpers (especially if you have an aftermarket intercooler)
- Remove the Coolant expansion tank
- Remove the water pump
- Drain Coolant
- Drain Oil
- Support Motor
- Remove intake
- Remove Inlet
- Remove Intercooler
- Remove Turbo to Intercooler Chargepipe
- Remove Downpipe (and possibly the entire exhaust)
- Remove belly pan
- Remove reinforcement plate
- Remove the Passenger Motor Mount
- Remove the Engine support arm
- Remove the oil and Coolant lines from the turbo and the motor
- Remove the flange nuts that secure the turbo manifold in place
- Remove turbo (extremely tight fit)
- Transfer over diverter valve
- Transfer over Oil and Coolant lines (I highly suggest getting new)- Etc..

In addition to all of the above, one of the biggest challenges is accessibility. On my car in the video, our flange nuts were completely corroded. On some of them, you find yourself in an awkward position turning a corroded flange nut 1/8 turn at a time. for most of the others, you'll need swivels, extensions, and some creativity, lol.

Once everything is back together, you need to check for leaks and make sure that everything is set correctly. Even things like bleeding the coolant system take about 12 min, which isn't all that much time, but it all adds up.

After we did mine, I flashed the car with a BM3 tune I had, which was good, but my car was misfiring like crazy, so we had to throw some colder plugs in, gapped to the correct spec.

Hope this is helpful,

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Called my local INDY shop and was quoted about 900-1200 for the install. Not bad but with this install video and more reviews popping up i might do the install myself!!
Not bad! Are you RWD?
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With the holidays upon us and mi really considering buying all the hardware for this but have read some reviews advising against purchasing the install kit...any remarks regarding additional parts you needed for the install and did you opt for the install kit that PureTurbo's offers??

Lastly, I currently have a ER charge pipe and uninstalled ER TIC pipe, should i still consider the High Flow inlet option???

Thank for all the help and support you've given this community and always look forward to watching all your new content loaded on your channel!!
For peace of mind, it's good to have the kit.

I would HIGHLY suggest getting new Oil and Coolant lines and replacing every gasket you can.

I believe these are the part numbers and list prices from BMW:

Coolant Line 11-53-7-583-900 $54.54
Coolant Line 11-53-7-583-903 $54.54
Oil Line 11-42-7-585-402 $67.23
Oil Line 11-42-7-585-403 $67.23

My lines were crazy corroded and extremely difficult to remove. Once we did get them out, I wasn't risking a leak by reinstalling them, so I opted for new.

They aren't cheap, but at the end of the day, I'd rather do it right the first time..

Happy to help if you want to talk about it more.

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Not bad! Are you RWD?
Yes, RWD

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For peace of mind, it's good to have the kit.

I would HIGHLY suggest getting new Oil and Coolant lines and replacing every gasket you can.

I believe these are the part numbers and list prices from BMW:

Coolant Line 11-53-7-583-900 $54.54
Coolant Line 11-53-7-583-903 $54.54
Oil Line 11-42-7-585-402 $67.23
Oil Line 11-42-7-585-403 $67.23

My lines were crazy corroded and extremely difficult to remove. Once we did get them out, I wasn't risking a leak by reinstalling them, so I opted for new.

They aren't cheap, but at the end of the day, I'd rather do it right the first time..

Happy to help if you want to talk about it more.

Bryan
Greatly appreciate the quick response and will get the install kit for piece of mind. Im hoping since my car has spent its entire life in FL and currently has 44k miles i might get away with reusing my oil and coolant lines. BUT like you mentioned i rather not risk a leak and the additional cost for oil/coolant lines won't break the bank and cheaper then running into issues down the line!!

Is the ER CP and TIC just as good as the High Flow inlet kit??
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Yes, RWD

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For peace of mind, it's good to have the kit.

I would HIGHLY suggest getting new Oil and Coolant lines and replacing every gasket you can.

I believe these are the part numbers and list prices from BMW:

Coolant Line 11-53-7-583-900 $54.54
Coolant Line 11-53-7-583-903 $54.54
Oil Line 11-42-7-585-402 $67.23
Oil Line 11-42-7-585-403 $67.23

My lines were crazy corroded and extremely difficult to remove. Once we did get them out, I wasn't risking a leak by reinstalling them, so I opted for new.

They aren't cheap, but at the end of the day, I'd rather do it right the first time..

Happy to help if you want to talk about it more.

Bryan
Greatly appreciate the quick response and will get the install kit for piece of mind. Im hoping since my car has spent its entire life in FL and currently has 44k miles i might get away with reusing my oil and coolant lines. BUT like you mentioned i rather not risk a leak and the additional cost for oil/coolant lines won't break the bank and cheaper then running into issues down the line!!

Is the ER CP and TIC just as good as the High Flow inlet kit??
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Not bad! Are you RWD?
Yes, RWD

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For peace of mind, it's good to have the kit.

I would HIGHLY suggest getting new Oil and Coolant lines and replacing every gasket you can.

I believe these are the part numbers and list prices from BMW:

Coolant Line 11-53-7-583-900 $54.54
Coolant Line 11-53-7-583-903 $54.54
Oil Line 11-42-7-585-402 $67.23
Oil Line 11-42-7-585-403 $67.23

My lines were crazy corroded and extremely difficult to remove. Once we did get them out, I wasn't risking a leak by reinstalling them, so I opted for new.

They aren't cheap, but at the end of the day, I'd rather do it right the first time..

Happy to help if you want to talk about it more.

Bryan
Greatly appreciate the quick response and will get the install kit for piece of mind. Im hoping since my car has spent its entire life in FL and currently has 44k miles i might get away with reusing my oil and coolant lines. BUT like you mentioned i rather not risk a leak and the additional cost for oil/coolant lines won't break the bank and cheaper then running into issues down the line!!

Is the ER CP and TIC just as good as the High Flow inlet kit??
Ahh, that explains it. The RWD price they gave you is average. The xdrive price is the one that is closer to $2k.

The ER CP and TIC are separate from the inlet. Your intake attaches to the inlet, then the inlet connects to the turbo. Then, it's the turbo, TIC, Intercooler, and chargepipe to throttle body.

If you need any of the parts, just let me know
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Do you have any traction problem with the stage 2. Any plan on an lsd.. I'm thinking of getting this but I dont know if I should get and lsd first.
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Do you have any traction problem with the stage 2. Any plan on an lsd.. I'm thinking of getting this but I dont know if I should get and lsd first.
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Do you have any traction problem with the stage 2. Any plan on an lsd.. I'm thinking of getting this but I dont know if I should get and lsd first.
No, but I'm all wheel drive with good tires
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Can anyone with rwd chime in. I'm interested in the stage 2 but I'm worry I won't get traction without lsd
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Can anyone with rwd chime in. I'm interested in the stage 2 but I'm worry I won't get traction without lsd
What tune will you be running? If you run BM3, you can always do boost reduction by gear to help with traction. That's what we do with the F80 guys..
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Can anyone with rwd chime in. I'm interested in the stage 2 but I'm worry I won't get traction without lsd
+2, im also thinking there might be potential traction issues since I'm RWD.

I've read that some have upgraded the Clutch and opted for a SMF in order to avoid misfiring but i think that was a while back before flashing was more popular.

Im thinking of getting a M-LSD first and then wait until next year to get the PS2...Although with the current sale offerings from X-PH i might bite the bullet and get the HW out of the way.

Im currently MHD tuned and they are testing some PS2 Maps, so that would be my tuning route. Also, I'm planning to not mess with the fuel system and just go with 93 octane OR at the most try the E20 maps to get just a little more boost. But a solid 450WHPish would be more than enough on the streets.

The older i get i ask myself, "do i really need to upgrade my turbo and why do I need to go fast?!" But thats the adult in me talking shit LOL

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What tune will you be running? If you run BM3, you can always do boost reduction by gear to help with traction. That's what we do with the F80 guys..
I'm running bm3.. Bought it from you a while back..
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What tune will you be running? If you run BM3, you can always do boost reduction by gear to help with traction. That's what we do with the F80 guys..
I'm running bm3.. Bought it from you a while back..
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What tune will you be running? If you run BM3, you can always do boost reduction by gear to help with traction. That's what we do with the F80 guys..
I'm running bm3.. Bought it from you a while back..
you should be good then
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+2, im also thinking there might be potential traction issues since I'm RWD.

I've read that some have upgraded the Clutch and opted for a SMF in order to avoid misfiring but i think that was a while back before flashing was more popular.

Im thinking of getting a M-LSD first and then wait until next year to get the PS2...Although with the current sale offerings from X-PH i might bite the bullet and get the HW out of the way.

Im currently MHD tuned and they are testing some PS2 Maps, so that would be my tuning route. Also, I'm planning to not mess with the fuel system and just go with 93 octane OR at the most try the E20 maps to get just a little more boost. But a solid 450WHPish would be more than enough on the streets.

The older i get i ask myself, "do i really need to upgrade my turbo and why do I need to go fast?!" But thats the adult in me talking shit LOL

What sale from xph?
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What sale from xph?
PS2 for 2125 and free ground shipping
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PS2 for 2125 and free ground shipping
Great.. Now I'm more tempted..
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Great.. Now I'm more tempted..
It's a slippery slope my friend!

Next on the list is fueling choices, HPFP + LPFP = $3K

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It's a slippery sloop my friend!

Next on the list is fueling choices, HPFP + LPFP = $3K
Not including lsd = 3k
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Not including lsd = 3k
Yeah I'm going to get the LSD this year and save up for next year's black Friday for the PS2 and then Xmas for the fueling.......SMH!
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