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It's standard practice to do a refresh to keep the runout model interesting, as the Shadow Edition did on the F30.
Lots of talk about the F32/6 being suddenly dated versus the G20. To an extent, yes, but the G20 is not the competition - BMW will be equally happy to take your money either way. The coupes and saloons have been on a different model cycle for a long time and the coupe model has always looked more modern on the outside due to being that bit newer. Of course, then leapfrogged by the new saloon. When I bought my F36, the F30 was never in contention. I'd decided to move away from BMW and the F36 kept me in the fold. The F32/6 are up against the A5 and C coupe, plus the Arteon, Stinger, 508. As well as needing to tempt existing owners of 2014/5/6 cars to take another.
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˄ This. Trying to be as objective as possible here, but to me it doesn't feel the G20 is such a huge step forward. Most of it is tech, and most of it are gimmicks IMO (personal assistant, gesture control, etc). Yes, a bigger screen and a more capable digital dash are nice though.
I'd also take the looks of the current 4 Series over the new G20 any day. Not to mention that if you are in the LCI variant, with the newer engines (i.e. B58), well that cycle just started. |
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My requirements are simple - B58 engine and four doors! :-)
As long as I can have it, I don't mind whether it's in the X3 M40i, the new G20 M340 or the 440i GC. Now just have to cross my fingers and toes for some good Q2 offers! |
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The new 3er is a fussy looking thing and the in-car tech, whilst great, doesn't seem to be that amazing. BMW have something of a hotchpotch right now of some models e.g M5 using hybrid digital cockpits from the current gen with some next-gen stuff as well. My view is in 4 years the new 3 series will get its first LCI and then it can be judged properly - that's a strong biting point for a lot of people just entering a PCP cycle. |
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I chose a '15 plate 4GC over a 3 saloon on looks to start with, followed by practicality.
I still prefer the looks of the '15 4GC over the upcoming 3 series. Some of the looks seem a backward step, but I might get used to them. |
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But as a previous poster mentioned, giving the offers floating around on the 4 Series last quarter, it was a no-brainer for anyone in the market (myself included) as opposed to considering the G20.
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I can't judge the refinement as it was very noisy at urban speeds but utterly unfair to compare petrol to diesel. Quieter on the motorway, but that's SUVs for you so again unfair to compare. Either way though, if I wanted to roll from this PCP into a new one on a mid-size BMW non-SUV this year, I'd choose a 440i GC again over a G20 M340i - looks and practicality would win me over rather than the minor tech advances. For some the 3 and 4 series are comparable and competing. I understand why, but for me they are not. Not knowing the new 3 at all - I much prefer the looks over the 5 series.
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I prefer the new indicator stalk, but the wiper stalk without the auto button is a bit of a step backwards I will admit. |
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Appreciate that the new indicators are preferred by some. Personally I liked BMW's old well thought through design. It feels like they have thrown the towel in now and gone with the crowd. I will give you ride quality though. Just back from a short trip through the potholes, at the end of a long week I'd rather be in a SUV sponging through them!
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Certainly the old style are infuriating. Even the sales lead in my dealer jokes about BMWs driving along the road indicating left, then right, then left before finally cancelling. I've done it myself many times. Designed by an idiot.
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Shame they've messed up the wiper stalk though, now that auto is at position 1 it means you can't just tap the stalk down for a single wipe as that cancels auto mode! |
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