[X307030]

Originally Posted by Solidjake

Thanks! Manuals for life! haha

around 1,600 labor after taxes. Parts were around 700 (fcp chain kit plus oil/filter)

Do you mind staring where you had the work done as I'm in the NYC area and will probably get the parts changed out.

Thanks

[Solidjake]

Originally Posted by X307030

Do you mind staring where you had the work done as I'm in the NYC area and will probably get the parts changed out.

Thanks

Sure thing. Lehigh Valley Motors (south of Bethlehem/east of Allentown).

Ross did a great job, no issues whatsoever and an incredible price. I brought in the timing chain kit from FCP plus oil/filter. Turnaround time 2 days give or take to get it done

[BWbimmer]

Originally Posted by Solidjake

Sure thing. Lehigh Valley Motors (south of Bethlehem/east of Allentown).

Ross did a great job, no issues whatsoever and an incredible price. I brought in the timing chain kit from FCP plus oil/filter. Turnaround time 2 days give or take to get it done

Look at all this plastic crap...

[Slick_FThirty]

Originally Posted by Solidjake

Sure thing. Lehigh Valley Motors (south of Bethlehem/east of Allentown).

Ross did a great job, no issues whatsoever and an incredible price. I brought in the timing chain kit from FCP plus oil/filter. Turnaround time 2 days give or take to get it done

Awesome! Thanks for sharing.

What mileage were you at? Symptoms? Oil change interval?

[Solidjake]

Originally Posted by Slick_FThirty

Awesome! Thanks for sharing.

What mileage were you at? Symptoms? Oil change interval?

You got it


97,000 miles, no symptoms, I had the car since 58k miles and did changes every 7k miles. The mechanic did say the chain had some stretch on it but the guides looked good for the most part. It's inevitable that the chains will stretch on the older models.

[sai528i]

Hi all,

I have a 2012 528i with about 97k on it. I was able to get my dealer to look at the timing chain last year at around 79k miles (attached image). Would I still be covered if I cross 100k by the time this settles? And how much would be covered? Appreciate the help!

[Solidjake]

Originally Posted by sai528i

Hi all,

I have a 2012 528i with about 97k on it. I was able to get my dealer to look at the timing chain last year at around 80k miles (attached image). Would I still be covered if I cross 100k by the time this settles? And how much would be covered? Appreciate the help!

If you cross is NO from the documents I've seen. I would get it done now if you want to try to get any reimbursement. That is why I had my chain replaced at 97k just for that. If they don't give me anything back at least I tried then have no been able to at all.

[Slick_FThirty]

Originally Posted by sai528i

Hi all,

I have a 2012 528i with about 97k on it. I was able to get my dealer to look at the timing chain last year at around 79k miles (attached image). Would I still be covered if I cross 100k by the time this settles? And how much would be covered? Appreciate the help!

It's the mileage at the time of service that they look at, as far as I'm aware, and that would be logical. As the other member mentioned, once you cross the max mileage , you won't be covered, regardless of the age of the vehicle.

Just to expand on that more, the court documents reference the mileage listed in the mechanics invoice for the repair.

[GreyF30]

Originally Posted by Solidjake

If you cross is NO from the documents I've seen. I would get it done now if you want to try to get any reimbursement. That is why I had my chain replaced at 97k just for that. If they don't give me anything back at least I tried then have no been able to at all.

Wait.. are you saying that we can get reimbursed for doing preventative replacement? Since IIRC you don't have any signs/issues on yours, right?

If that's the case I would really consider doing mine too.

[sjbender]

Originally Posted by GreyF30

Wait.. are you saying that we can get reimbursed for doing preventative replacement? Since IIRC you don't have any signs/issues on yours, right?

If that's the case I would really consider doing mine too.

If there is abnormal sound then its not preventative. They are failing... just has not crossed the complete failure threshold yet. It's all about documentation of course.

[sjbender]

Full docket text for document 77:
Letter from Parties re JOINT LETTER Regarding Post-Settlement Discovery Dispute. (GRAIFMAN, GARY)

Full docket text for document 78:
Letter from Parties (Refiled) re JOINT LETTER Regarding Post-Settlement Discovery (with Exhibits)Dispute. (Attachments: # (1) Exhibit A to Defendants' Position in Joint Letter, # (2) Exhibit B to Defendants' Position in Joint Letter)(GRAIFMAN, GARY)

Full docket text for document 79:
TEXT ORDER: The Court will prepone the 2/16/21 telephone conference to 12/21/20 at 10am.. So Ordered by Magistrate Judge Cathy L. Waldor on 11/2/20. (tjg, )

Full docket text for document 80:
Letter from Gary S. Graifman to the Honorable Cathy L. Waldor. (GRAIFMAN, GARY)

All letters available here: http://www.sjbender.com/78.zip

[chrisca70]

Just had my 2013 X1 (85k mi) timing chain replaced by my Indy. My chain had developed a little bit of the tell-tale whine sound and had developed scoring marks. Indy said there was some stretch on the chain, compared to the new one. The guides were mostly ok, with a couple of tiny microfractures (5-7mm) where they come together. I requested only BMW parts as I plan to get reimbursed from the class action. They had to replace a couple of extra parts as this job is very involved.

[sjbender]

Full docket text for document 81:
TEXT ORDER: The Court will prepone the 12/21/20 conference to 11/20/20 at 1pm. So Ordered by Magistrate Judge Cathy L. Waldor on 11/5/20. (tjg, )

[sjbender]

Full docket text for document 82:

Letter regarding "Objection of Class Member to Class Action Settlement" from Settlement Class Member LAWRENCE BROCCHINI. (dam)

http://www.sjbender.com/82.pdf

[EBS0712]

Originally Posted by sjbender

Full docket text for document 82:

Letter regarding "Objection of Class Member to Class Action Settlement" from Settlement Class Member LAWRENCE BROCCHINI. (dam)

http://www.sjbender.com/82.pdf

Thank you for posting this letter. In the letter I saw the following quote:
"Based on Google searches and review of this Court's PACER system, I understand that BMW North America has agreed to a settlement that has been preliminarily approved, but will not be approved and effective until sometime in 2021."
Do you have the details of the preliminary settlement and if so can you please share them?
Thanks for all of your work following the Class Action ......

[sjbender]

This forum thread talks a lot about the details of the proposed settlement...

https://www.bimmerfest.com/threads/b...359171/page-19

[sjbender]

Latest entry, have a great thanksgiving everyone...

Full docket text:
Minute Entry for proceedings held before Magistrate Judge Cathy L. Waldor: Status Conference held on 11/20/2020. (tjg, )

Full docket text for document 83:
TEXT ORDER: Discovery disputes resolved as to docket #78 as follows,( numbers correspond to roman numerals in plaintiffs demand for information):1.Model and model year for all class vehicles originally purchased2.Median rate for repair, costs and labor per model for engines and chains3.Included in # 24.Moot5.Current average consumer retail purchase price for each class vehicle model for 100,000 mile platinum coverage option6.Denied7.Denied. The Court will reschedule the final approval hearing (by phone) to 2/16/21 at 10:30am. So Ordered by Magistrate Judge Cathy L. Waldor on 11/23/20. (tjg, )

[sjbender]

Here is docket 78 with the corresponding answers from above... Roman numeral is the question, number is the answer.


I. Model year and model of all class vehicles originally sold and an estimate of the percentage of the class vehicles excluded under the settlement agreement.
1.Model and model year for all class vehicles originally purchased

II. BMW NA’s current or recent U.S. average dealer warranty claim dollars and labor time for each BMW service code for repairs to be covered under both the warranty extensions including a list of separate warranty claim amounts for each of labor, parts and other costs.
2.Median rate for repair, costs and labor per model for engines and chains

III. Excel spreadsheet databases of class vehicles claims/reimbursements for each of New Passenger Vehicle Limited Warranty, component warranty extension, goodwill and certified-preowned vehicles. The databases should include nature of claim repair, dollars paid segregated into major categories (e.g., parts, labor, other costs, and total), labor time and rate, claim number and claim repair order number, vehicle model year, vehicle identification number, vehicle warranty start date, repair date and odometer
reading.
3.Included in # 2

IV. The U.S. average per hour dealer warranty labor reimbursement rate for the most recent annual period available.
4.Moot

V. The current average consumer retail purchase price for each class vehicle model for BMW NA’s 100,000-mile Platinum coverage option.
5.Current average consumer retail purchase price for each class vehicle model for 100,000 mile platinum coverage option

VI. BMW NA’s estimated new vehicle warranty cost rate (%) for class vehicles (estimated average per vehicle warranty costs divided by the average vehicle sale price to U.S. dealers) and estimated warranty costs including both warranty and goodwill claims expected to be paid by BMW NA to U.S. dealers at dealer warranty reimbursement rates.
6.Denied

VII. BMW NA most recent estimated out of pocket costs for the class action settlement.
7.Denied

[Galip1993]

Hey guys, n20/26 noob here. Is it true that the n26 SULEV engines get a 15 year 150k mile warranty?

[Silverlining_m2]

Originally Posted by Galip1993

Hey guys, n20/26 noob here. Is it true that the n26 SULEV engines get a 15 year 150k mile warranty?

I believe the full emissions system is warrantied for that long. Includes exhaust system and fuel lines and some other stuff. The rest of it is not warrantied that long and the timing chain isn't part of that warranty to my knowledge...

[Slick_FThirty]

Originally Posted by Galip1993

Hey guys, n20/26 noob here. Is it true that the n26 SULEV engines get a 15 year 150k mile warranty?

Kies Motorsport (famous YouTube channel) got a free engine after it had blown due to timing chain failure, under the SULEV warranty. I have heard of reports of others going this route and being successful in getting a replacement engine or timing chain.

However, there is speculation and hesitation among people since it does not specifically state TC. But as stated, other people have used it successfully in their favour. For this reason, I would say yes.

[Galip1993]

Originally Posted by Slick_FThirty

Kies Motorsport (famous YouTube channel) got a free engine after it had blown due to timing chain failure, under the SULEV warranty. I have heard of reports of others going this route and being successful in getting a replacement engine or timing chain.

However, there is speculation and hesitation among people since it does not specifically state TC. But as stated, other people have used it successfully in their favour. For this reason, I would say yes.

Yes thats exactly the video I saw and wanted to ask about. Although it seems the car in the vid is not an LCI... I wonder because since BMW changed the timing chain and guides for the LCI F30, if the SULEV warranty would still apply to the LCI models Also in the vid it seems to have a chart for SULEV warranty states and PA only says something like 2009 & 2010.

I would like to also ask if anybody here has a aftermatket warranty on their bmw? If so can you please share the details