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      05-17-2023, 05:04 AM   #23
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Wheels are front 8,5”, 235/40/19 ET35 and rear 9,5”, 265/35/19 ET40.
Don’t know how it drives yet, picking up from the shop this afternoon
That looks really good. Let me know how it drives!
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i believe N8_Fury grazed the fenderwell liner during full lock turn at stock height. he was planning to lower it but his car got totaled and he's moved on to something else.
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...-5RS+black+F36

N8_Fury and two other members with F36x and 235/40/19(26.4")@et29/30 front+265/35/19(26.3")@et40 rear have grazed the fenderwell liner/tab at full-lock. they were all unlowered. lowering the car adds slightly more negative camber and the tire position moves up in the well, increasing the distance at the closest point of contact to the fenderwell liner at full lock. this seems to eliminate any rub.
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Maybe I'll go 8.5 up front and 9.5 in the rear. This forum has definitely got me narrowed down.
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      05-17-2023, 11:31 AM   #25
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Maybe I'll go 8.5 up front and 9.5 in the rear. This forum has definitely got me narrowed down.
rim offset dictates tire position. interference may happen if offset is too high or low. interference could also happen if a rim itself is wider than the tire at too high of an offset. however this is not the case for the widths and offsets we are discussing here.

F36 has the smallest front fenderwell space and 235/40/19(26.4") at ET29/30 has NOT grazed rubbed with the exception of three that i'm aware of who were at stock height.

there are F36 with 19" 437M(same footprint as 9"@+30/10"@+40 VS-5RS) with 235/40+265/35, 245/35+285/30

imo VS-5RS at 8.5/9.5 have less suitable offsets for the staggered tire combo.

tbh, at this point, i regret bringing up the wide rear staggered setup. maybe go with your original planned square setup?
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rim offset dictates tire position. interference may happen if offset is too high or low. interference could also happen if a rim itself is wider than the tire at too high of an offset. however this is not the case for the widths and offsets we are discussing here.

F36 has the smallest front fenderwell space and 235/40/19(26.4") at ET29/30 has NOT grazed rubbed with the exception of three that i'm aware of who were at stock height.

there are F36 with 19" 437M(same footprint as 9"@+30/10"@+40 VS-5RS) with 235/40+265/35, 245/35+285/30

imo VS-5RS at 8.5/9.5 have less suitable offsets for the staggered tire combo.

tbh, at this point, i regret bringing up the wide rear staggered setup. maybe go with your original planned square setup?
I'd like to run 9 up front. ET30. Still throwing around the idea of a 10 in the rear. It's really going to come down to how low I go.
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I had the set of Apex arc8 18x9 et30 255/35/18. They absolutely poked, about 3mm out. Actually I still have them, 4x square anthracite DM me, mint will ship.

It would have probably needed two to three degrees negative camber up front (aftermarket plates) to shove it in there and then I'm pretty sure it was going to hit that bracket. So you can try 9 et30t, maybe you like poke, but hopefully not and then be prepared to have to fight it.

The f3x sucks and can't fit anything.. I want to run 19 by 11 with 305 square et10 but it doesn't fit. 8.5 et32-35 245 works well on this average commuter car. Need to roll the fenders and really get after it to fit anything decent.

Not sure about this f-36 talk either.

I don't really know why I still run a square setup. But what I posted earlier looks perfect. It's nice to be able to rotate the tires and there was some paranoia about the transfer case even with the same diameter. 245 really sucks the rear though I continually think about trying to go 265 or 275 back there somehow but it's not worth the hassle imo. I don't need more rear grip right now. It would just be for looks. Should have 305 back there

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I had the set of Apex arc8 18x9 et30 255/35/18. They absolutely poked, about 3mm out. Actually I still have them, 4x square anthracite DM me, mint will ship.

It would have probably needed two to three degrees negative camber up front (aftermarket plates) to shove it in there and then I'm pretty sure it was going to hit that bracket. So you can try 9 et30t, maybe you like poke, but hopefully not and then be prepared to have to fight it.

The f3x sucks and can't fit anything.. I want to run 19 by 11 with 305 square et10 but it doesn't fit. 8.5 et32-35 245 works well on this average commuter car. Need to roll the fenders and really get after it to fit anything decent.

Not sure about this f-36 talk either.

I don't really know why I still run a square setup. But what I posted earlier looks perfect. It's nice to be able to rotate the tires and there was some paranoia about the transfer case even with the same diameter. 245 really sucks the rear though I continually think about trying to go 265 or 275 back there somehow but it's not worth the hassle imo. I don't need more rear grip right now. It would just be for looks. Should have 305 back there
Then I'd really like to know how people fit 10s in the rear with no issue. Unless you have an F8x, the cars are narrower.
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I was taking about the front .. and yes it poked in the rear a little bit too, but I only have one degree of camber in the rea, there's more room in the stock adjustment so those could have fit in without too much issue in the rear.
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I was taking about the front .. and yes it poked in the rear a little bit too, but I only have one degree of camber in the rea, there's more room in the stock adjustment so those could have fit in without too much issue in the rear.
Gotcha. I've never had this much trouble figuring out wheels and suspension lol
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As I mentioned, I picked up my car with KW DDC fitted yesterday.
Not driven many miles, but so far it’s exactly what I want considering it’s a dd.
In comfort it glides easily over manhole covers and small potholes and in sport it stiffens up without being too harsh.
I don’t track my car so I don’t need the perfect track setup but for my use it perfect.
Can only recommend it 👍😊
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As I mentioned, I picked up my car with KW DDC fitted yesterday.
Not driven many miles, but so far it’s exactly what I want considering it’s a dd.
In comfort it glides easily over manhole covers and small potholes and in sport it stiffens up without being too harsh.
I don’t track my car so I don’t need the perfect track setup but for my use it perfect.
Can only recommend it 👍😊
Any issues with the fitment of your wheels?
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No issues with wheels.
No rubbing at all.
And I’ve just come back from a small road trip. And I’m still very pleased with the setup. Does exactly what I want 😊
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No issues with wheels.
No rubbing at all.
And I’ve just come back from a small road trip. And I’m still very pleased with the setup. Does exactly what I want 😊
Can both the front and rear height be adjusted without having to remove the coilovers? What about all other adjustments? I've heard the rear ones have to come out to make some kind of adjustment.
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Can both the front and rear height be adjusted without having to remove the coilovers? What about all other adjustments? I've heard the rear ones have to come out to make some kind of adjustment.
I’m not sure. From what I’ve seen on YouTube videos, it should be possible to adjust without having to remove them.
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