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      02-17-2017, 12:31 AM   #309
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When new AIC6 is coming ? by who ? split-second ?
yea it came out in December, its a usb interface now, not sure what else is new though. its $450 for our motor.
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yea it came out in December, its a usb interface now, not sure what else is new though. its $450 for our motor.
Link? I think I heard of it
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Link? I think I heard of it
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Well it still says coming soon but they emailed me in December saying its ready for order, I just never ordered it because im waiting on the maxboost device.
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https://splitsec.com/product/aic2-v-...ors-ev1-style/

Well it still says coming soon but they emailed me in December saying its ready for order, I just never ordered it because im waiting on the maxboost device.
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In short, all you need to get is a BM3 license. That includes 1 OTS map that matches your mods/octane and we send that to you over email once your DME is unlocked.

There are multiple ways a user can interact with bootmod3: Android bootmod3 app, iOS bootmod3 app, bootmod3 on the Web (https://services.bootmod3.net). All 3 of these offer the same end user experience and look identical. Any of these three at any time you can use, log in, view your maps/logs/run diagnostics and flash with.

In order to flash, run diagnostics, etc you have to run the OBD agent. It connects the car to bm3 servers and also makes the car available on local WIFI so you can access it directly for logging/dashboard. OBD agent can be run on a laptop or device. Device is just an alternative to using a laptop in the car, its smaller and easier to tuck away somewhere out of sight and not worry about. ENET cable connects from the OBD port in the car to whatever you choose to run the OBD Agent on (laptop or device).

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Would some form of antilag/2step/NLS be programmable with BM3? I want to spit flames How about burbles?
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Looking to get some clarification on this for my car.
Car is a N55 EWG running CP, FMIC, Catless DP, and Intake
Gas will be 91octane

What are projected numbers and is there a tune already created for this setup?
How many maps can you load on a BM3?
What is the overall warranty on the product?
How does resale of the product work?
Will there be an offline mode soon?
Have there been any dealer visits with BM3 on car? (if so, did they detect it)

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Looking to get some clarification on this for my car.
Car is a N55 EWG running CP, FMIC, Catless DP, and Intake
Gas will be 91octane

What are projected numbers and is there a tune already created for this setup?
How many maps can you load on a BM3?
What is the overall warranty on the product?
How does resale of the product work?
Will there be an offline mode soon?
Have there been any dealer visits with BM3 on car? (if so, did they detect it)

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I I may,

Obviously numbers will vary but on 91 octane on EWG I'd suspect 375ish rwhp 410tq dynojet .

You can load 1, 5, 20, 50 maps if you buy them, there isn't really a capped amount. You can run a map from every participating Tuner on these forums if you like, including PTF's maps of course.
They're all stored in the BM3 cloud. You can't map swap on the fly, this required a 3-5 minute downtime while you flash.

Ptf will have to chime in on warranty.

You can resell your license that you purchase and the agent device once PTF verifies you flashed your vehicle back to oem map. They look on their server and can see what you flash to every time.

There is an offline mode at the moment, but you must log in to the cloud at least once. But offline mode still requires an internet connection with the agent.

Rob has visited a dealer. They can wipe the map off your flash but will never wipe the dme unlock. You just reflash back at home. No one is certain at this point if a dealer has flagged a car only Munich knows. Every dme flash CAN be detected by BMW. If the warranty claim is serious enough they will see the dme was split open.

Hope this helps.
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I I may,

Obviously numbers will vary but on 91 octane on EWG I'd suspect 375ish rwhp 410tq dynojet .

You can load 50 maps if you buy them. They're all stored in the BM3 cloud. You can't map swap on the fly, this required a 3-5 minute downtime while you flash.

Ptf will have to chime in on warranty.

You can resell your license that you purchase and the agent device once PTF verifies you flashed your vehicle back to oem map. They look on their server and can see what you flash to every time.

There is an offline mode at the moment, but you must log in to the cloud at least once. But offline mode still requires an internet connection with the agent.

Rob has visited a dealer. They can wipe the map off your flash but will never wipe the dme unlock. You just reflash back at home. No one is certain at this point if a dealer has flagged a car only Munich knows. Every dme flash CAN be detected by BMW. If the warranty claim is serious enough they will see the dme was split open.

Hope this helps.
Thanks for the response!

-Out of curiosity, would xDrive decrease the HP numbers due to transfer case?
-What is the difference between offline and online mode? I have an old android laying around that I can use, but wouldn't mind bringing my laptop in the car if I can get an ethernet to USB-C adapter or something similar.
-What exactly does the Agent Device do for the additional $300?
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Thanks for the response!

-Out of curiosity, would xDrive decrease the HP numbers due to transfer case?
-What is the difference between offline and online mode? I have an old android laying around that I can use, but wouldn't mind bringing my laptop in the car if I can get an ethernet to USB-C adapter or something similar.
-What exactly does the Agent Device do for the additional $300?
Yes xdrive will decrease hp numbers no doubt 15-20-% driver train loss.

Offline mode was developed so it's easier to log in and not necessarily be connected to cloud. You cannot flash in offline mode, you can basically log its the main intent. but like I said you must at least once log into the cloud based servers. After that it just gets picked up automatically by the agent (in your car if you have it).

The agent is basically like your computer it connects you to the cloud the same way, but with the added convenience of it lugging around a lap top, and using the app.
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So bm3 on a f30 pwg fbo car with 93 makes about the same power as jb4 with e40?
I'm just guessing in his case on awd and 91 octane. Hard to estimate numbers especially on x drive cars but It typically puts down more power than jb4 and it's reliably consistent delivery and drivability.

Bm3 PTF hold the n55 stock + meth turbo HP record FWIW.
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So bm3 on a f30 pwg fbo car with 93 makes about the same power as jb4 with e40?
I'm just guessing in his case on awd and 91 octane. Hard to estimate numbers especially on x drive cars but It typically puts down more power than jb4 and it's reliably consistent delivery and drivability.

Bm3 PTF hold the n55 stock + meth turbo HP record FWIT.
Im waiting for someone to post results of a stack since ptf says they will make a backend map for jb4.
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Would some form of antilag/2step/NLS be programmable with BM3? I want to spit flames How about burbles?
N55 burble is work in progress. We have it working on some software versions but not all like we do on the S55 right at this time but we're getting there and work never on features never stops.

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Looking to get some clarification on this for my car.
Car is a N55 EWG running CP, FMIC, Catless DP, and Intake
Gas will be 91octane

What are projected numbers and is there a tune already created for this setup?
How many maps can you load on a BM3?
What is the overall warranty on the product?
How does resale of the product work?
Will there be an offline mode soon?
Have there been any dealer visits with BM3 on car? (if so, did they detect it)

FSociety
There have been numbers posted with those mods on 91 on here (m235i 6mt car) but without an FMIC which is a mandatory hardware mod on the N55 and suggested as the very first modification on this motor so good job going with one.

Dejan answered most of the questions already but to clarify on the re-lock at dealer. Its entirely possible they can place the lock back IF they update the software on the DME fully. In most cases especially on the N55 they will do only a partial flash and not full and unlock will remain.

There have been a number of cars that have gone in with bm3 flashed to stock tunes (which have the tamper code removed) and have not had any issues reported.

At the end of the day, bm3 is a performance tuning platform and we can't possibly know every in/out of detecting a tune on DMEs programmed by BMW. There is always a chance tuning will be detected and that goes for both piggybacks and flashes, one of them being a FASTA report the other being visual check.

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Yes xdrive will decrease hp numbers no doubt 15-20-% driver train loss.

Offline mode was developed so it's easier to log in and not necessarily be connected to cloud. You cannot flash in offline mode, you can basically log its the main intent. but like I said you must at least once log into the cloud based servers. After that it just gets picked up automatically by the agent (in your car if you have it).

The agent is basically like your computer it connects you to the cloud the same way, but with the added convenience of it lugging around a lap top, and using the app.
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I'm just guessing in his case on awd and 91 octane. Hard to estimate numbers especially on x drive cars but It typically puts down more power than jb4 and it's reliably consistent delivery and drivability.

Bm3 PTF hold the n55 stock + meth turbo HP record FWIW.


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Im waiting for someone to post results of a stack since ptf says they will make a backend map for jb4.
We are as well! We have a customer in China (Leon) that just ran a 6.75sec 100-200km/hr time in his Pure Stage 2 335 xdrive. He's stacked with a JB4 running about 25psi on E50. His telemetry is reporting an 11.3sec 1/4 mile time and he'll be attending a big event in China in the next 2 weeks so looking forward to it. Car's on our Instagram, as well as another m135i Pure Stage 2 that put down 540whp and won a recent roll-on event. Car belongs to AutomotiveMotorsport.
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Looking to get some clarification on this for my car.
Car is a N55 EWG running CP, FMIC, Catless DP, and Intake
Gas will be 91octane

What are projected numbers and is there a tune already created for this setup?
How many maps can you load on a BM3?
What is the overall warranty on the product?
How does resale of the product work?
Will there be an offline mode soon?
Have there been any dealer visits with BM3 on car? (if so, did they detect it)

FSociety
Hey man, I made 340whp/410wtq on eas Dyno with no meth and 91octane.

Gained 40hp and 100wtq and I am running, downpipe,fmic,cp, exhaust.

Side note, the car wasn't dynoed in sport plus which apparently the boost targets are higher. Also the machine took 7 tries to set a baseline and then afterwards flashing it to the tune and another 3-4 attempts while flashed to work properly. Kind of weird, but I feel like there was more in the tank if everything worked out correctly. This thing is a monster though! Autotalent and PTF are the best!
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PTF boys just tuned my buddy's N55 PS1, seriously fucked up fast on meth. I am so speechless right now riding shotgun no words. F&@cked up


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Would some form of antilag/2step/NLS be programmable with BM3? I want to spit flames How about burbles?
N55 burble is work in progress. We have it working on some software versions but not all like we do on the S55 right at this time but we're getting there and work never on features never stops.

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Looking to get some clarification on this for my car.
Car is a N55 EWG running CP, FMIC, Catless DP, and Intake
Gas will be 91octane

What are projected numbers and is there a tune already created for this setup?
How many maps can you load on a BM3?
What is the overall warranty on the product?
How does resale of the product work?
Will there be an offline mode soon?
Have there been any dealer visits with BM3 on car? (if so, did they detect it)

FSociety
There have been numbers posted with those mods on 91 on here (m235i 6mt car) but without an FMIC which is a mandatory hardware mod on the N55 and suggested as the very first modification on this motor so good job going with one.

Dejan answered most of the questions already but to clarify on the re-lock at dealer. Its entirely possible they can place the lock back IF they update the software on the DME fully. In most cases especially on the N55 they will do only a partial flash and not full and unlock will remain.

There have been a number of cars that have gone in with bm3 flashed to stock tunes (which have the tamper code removed) and have not had any issues reported.

At the end of the day, bm3 is a performance tuning platform and we can't possibly know every in/out of detecting a tune on DMEs programmed by BMW. There is always a chance tuning will be detected and that goes for both piggybacks and flashes, one of them being a FASTA report the other being visual check.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejan_ View Post
Yes xdrive will decrease hp numbers no doubt 15-20-% driver train loss.

Offline mode was developed so it's easier to log in and not necessarily be connected to cloud. You cannot flash in offline mode, you can basically log its the main intent. but like I said you must at least once log into the cloud based servers. After that it just gets picked up automatically by the agent (in your car if you have it).

The agent is basically like your computer it connects you to the cloud the same way, but with the added convenience of it lugging around a lap top, and using the app.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dejan_ View Post
I'm just guessing in his case on awd and 91 octane. Hard to estimate numbers especially on x drive cars but It typically puts down more power than jb4 and it's reliably consistent delivery and drivability.

Bm3 PTF hold the n55 stock + meth turbo HP record FWIW.


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Im waiting for someone to post results of a stack since ptf says they will make a backend map for jb4.
We are as well! We have a customer in China (Leon) that just ran a 6.75sec 100-200km/hr time in his Pure Stage 2 335 xdrive. He's stacked with a JB4 running about 25psi on E50. His telemetry is reporting an 11.3sec 1/4 mile time and he'll be attending a big event in China in the next 2 weeks so looking forward to it. Car's on our Instagram, as well as another m135i Pure Stage 2 that put down 540whp and won a recent roll-on event. Car belongs to AutomotiveMotorsport.
Can you clarify how resale of the license would work?
Is that back to PTF or third party such as JB4?
When you reflash to stock, are you saying it changes obd upload count to 0?
What maps are currently available for n55 without meth or ethanol but running FBO?
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Hey man, I made 340whp/410wtq on eas Dyno with no meth and 91octane.

Gained 40hp and 100wtq and I am running, downpipe,fmic,cp, exhaust.

Side note, the car wasn't dynoed in sport plus which apparently the boost targets are higher. Also the machine took 7 tries to set a baseline and then afterwards flashing it to the tune and another 3-4 attempts while flashed to work properly. Kind of weird, but I feel like there was more in the tank if everything worked out correctly. This thing is a monster though! Autotalent and PTF are the best!
So, those #s are just on fbo no tune right? Seems too low if you have that on bm3
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Hey man, I made 340whp/410wtq on eas Dyno with no meth and 91octane.

Gained 40hp and 100wtq and I am running, downpipe,fmic,cp, exhaust.

Side note, the car wasn't dynoed in sport plus which apparently the boost targets are higher. Also the machine took 7 tries to set a baseline and then afterwards flashing it to the tune and another 3-4 attempts while flashed to work properly. Kind of weird, but I feel like there was more in the tank if everything worked out correctly. This thing is a monster though! Autotalent and PTF are the best!
So, those #s are just on fbo no tune right? Seems too low if you have that on bm3
Thats not low for 91. If youre making more than him its only because youre running e85.
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Thats not low for 91. If youre making more than him its only because youre running e85.
mmm, there is people with fbo+jb4+pump/93 around 350, so I expect bm3 a little more.
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Thats not low for 91. If youre making more than him its only because youre running e85.
mmm, there is people with fbo+jb4+pump/93 around 350, so I expect bm3 a little more.
He would make atleast that with 93. Plus he said he was dynoed in comfort and heat soaked. Idk if the mode reall matters or not.
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He would make atleast that with 93. Plus he said he was dynoed in comfort and heat soaked. Idk if the mode reall matters or not.
Got it. I made my mind already and Im going for ps2 on jb4 later this year then will see how evolve is bm3 to jump on it.
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