Can someone talk me out of a bluespark tuning box

chris-c · 03-20-2018, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dk1894

I explained to them that it was a kit sold and fitted by BMW that involved a new exhaust and an increase in power of about 10% ... the guy put it down as exhaust/manifold changes and when I called back the next day to clarify that the 10% power increase wasn't stated on the policy, they said it was fine and was covered under this "exhaust/manifold change" and they sent me an email as proof saying that "this change relates to what I discussed on the call on xx/xx/xxxx".

It clearly is just luck as to who you get on the phone and what they feel like doing.

What was the end result for your policy? How much did it increase?

Oh no, I didnt make myself clear obviously. £0.00 increase. They accepted it as a BMW Stock item and an optional factory fit.

I'm now emailing Aran about a problem with my existing exhaust and I'll see where I end up.

EDIT...... This is the exhaust rattle that I've got at the moment. Definitely coming from the passenger side outlet. Sounds to be rattle from the flap.

M3anLantern · 03-20-2018, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by chris-c

Quote:

Originally Posted by dk1894

I explained to them that it was a kit sold and fitted by BMW that involved a new exhaust and an increase in power of about 10% ... the guy put it down as exhaust/manifold changes and when I called back the next day to clarify that the 10% power increase wasn't stated on the policy, they said it was fine and was covered under this "exhaust/manifold change" and they sent me an email as proof saying that "this change relates to what I discussed on the call on xx/xx/xxxx".

It clearly is just luck as to who you get on the phone and what they feel like doing.

What was the end result for your policy? How much did it increase?

Oh no, I didnt make myself clear obviously. Â£0.00 increase. They accepted it as a BMW Stock item and an optional factory fit.

I'm now emailing Aran about a problem with my existing exhaust and I'll see where I end up.

EDIT...... This is the exhaust rattle that I've got at the moment. Definitely coming from the passenger side outlet. Sounds to be rattle from the flap.

They're aware that the kit comes bundled with the increase in power as well as the exhaust? No increase is a great result if so!

I've had the same rattle as well and showed the video to the local service guy at the BMW dealership and he was just surprised and hadn't seen this before.

EDIT: MPPSK is an easy fix for that problem

chris-c · 03-20-2018, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dk1894

They're aware that the kit comes bundled with the increase in power as well as the exhaust? No increase is a great result if so!

I've had the same rattle as well and showed the video to the local service guy at the BMW dealership and he was just surprised and hadn't seen this before.

EDIT: MPPSK is an easy fix for that problem

but did they offer to help cost wise due to the rattle.

I'm tempted to make them do the work and fix it THEN go MPPSK if they wont help

Daftasabrush · 03-20-2018, 12:11 PM

My stock one did that too. Yours has already had a new back box to fix probably exactly the same thing. I personally didn't care all that much as I knew I was getting rid of it for a proper exhaust

IMO MPPSK is the ONLY safe way if you care about warranty/good will. These cars can be horrendously expensive to fix is something goes wrong and warranty help and/or good will from dealers can resolve/help a lot. With a tuning box, you're almost certainly going to be on your own.

chris-c · 03-20-2018, 12:57 PM

Thanks for that.

I think I've decided that MPPSK is the right choice. I remember a diesel tuning box on my mondeo and the number of issues that had later in its life basically made me nurse the car to the car shop to trade it in. That car didnt even make 80'000 miles and I blame the diesel box for its engine issues.

I see the JB boxes as being far more advanced and I think I posted this in the hope that everyone would push me away from the bluespark box.

I'm going to take my car along to the garage tomorrow to get someone to have a listen.

M3anLantern · 03-20-2018, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chris-c

Quote:

Originally Posted by dk1894

They're aware that the kit comes bundled with the increase in power as well as the exhaust? No increase is a great result if so!

I've had the same rattle as well and showed the video to the local service guy at the BMW dealership and he was just surprised and hadn't seen this before.

EDIT: MPPSK is an easy fix for that problem

but did they offer to help cost wise due to the rattle.

I'm tempted to make them do the work and fix it THEN go MPPSK if they wont help

Didn't really ask as by the time I showed them the video and they shrugged their shoulders, I had decided on the MPPSK.

As you were mentioning that you were after the pops/bangs, I found out today that although those don't seem to exist on the newer kits (such as mine), there a lot of loud burbles and pops between 3/4K revs when downshifting and hovering in the same gear! Still quite enjoyable!!

magic77 · 01-22-2019, 04:19 AM

hmm same boat here. last time I run my 335i came in just under 320Bhp on rolling road. Now 3 years gone and getting bored need bit more grunt.

Already have the exhaust, intake from performance kit so question is ECU , plugin box or full remap.

Dan08 · 05-29-2019, 03:26 PM

Can someone please help

BlueSpark box??? https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1618335

misguided_will · 08-28-2019, 02:02 AM

Bluespark just ups the boost right?

teaston · 08-29-2019, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by misguided_will

Bluespark just ups the boost right?

The single channel one just increases fuel rail pressure, the twin channel one also increases the boost pressure very slightly.

DriveS · 08-29-2019, 02:48 PM

My experience on a 335d of a 3 channel TDI box, was that it fell about 40BHP and 30NM short of the claimed figures. Getting a remap setup on a rolling road is the way i will go every time now as the results are in another league. Not too much more expensive either.

When I first got the box fitted I was impressed by the difference. Getting the remap was an equal change from the box as it was from standard to box.

dizzy619 · 08-29-2019, 04:20 PM

Bm3 or mhd... Sorted

t5pilot · 08-29-2019, 05:51 PM

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Bm3 or mhd... Sorted

Having just read through all this I was just gonna suggest BM3...

siiiilky · 08-30-2019, 08:36 AM

I've gone stage 1 BM3 recently, it really is very good.

Mick.86uk · 08-30-2019, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by siiiilky

I've gone stage 1 BM3 recently, it really is very good.

I'm looking at MHD stage 1 on my 440i soon as it's nearly out of warranty.

I had MHD on my previous M135i and the maps are super smooth and progressive compared to the JB4 standard maps.

dizzy619 · 08-30-2019, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mick.86uk

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Originally Posted by siiiilky

I've gone stage 1 BM3 recently, it really is very good.

I'm looking at MHD stage 1 on my 440i soon as it's nearly out of warranty.

I had MHD on my previous M135i and the maps are super smooth and progressive compared to the JB4 standard maps.

I have it on my n54 and now on the 340i..great maps... Bm3 is awesome too.. The options and functionality are brilliant

Sgm123 · 08-31-2019, 03:46 AM

Has anyone had any reliability issues - I am seriously looking at the bm3 at the minute but still have warranty on the 340 until May 2020. Getting a bit bored and want more power.

dizzy619 · 08-31-2019, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu101

Has anyone had any reliability issues - I am seriously looking at the bm3 at the minute but still have warranty on the 340 until May 2020. Getting a bit bored and want more power.

Only 1 I have heard of over the pond, but I think that was user error involving meth.. (in his car not his body

)

teaston · 08-31-2019, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzy619

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu101

Has anyone had any reliability issues - I am seriously looking at the bm3 at the minute but still have warranty on the 340 until May 2020. Getting a bit bored and want more power.

Only 1 I have heard of over the pond, but I think that was user error involving meth.. (in his car not his body

)

: that made me chuckle!

misguided_will · 01-16-2020, 05:12 AM

Would a bluespark from a m140i work ok on a 340i? Both have the same b58b30m0 version engine

03-20-2018, 12:11 PM	#26
Daftasabrush Fool 1856 Rep 3,542 Posts Drives: F31 340i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: England iTrader: (0)	My stock one did that too. Yours has already had a new back box to fix probably exactly the same thing. I personally didn't care all that much as I knew I was getting rid of it for a proper exhaust IMO MPPSK is the ONLY safe way if you care about warranty/good will. These cars can be horrendously expensive to fix is something goes wrong and warranty help and/or good will from dealers can resolve/help a lot. With a tuning box, you're almost certainly going to be on your own. __________________
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chris-c Lieutenant Colonel 901 Rep 1,800 Posts Drives: F31 340i RWD Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Kent iTrader: (0)	Thanks for that. I think I've decided that MPPSK is the right choice. I remember a diesel tuning box on my mondeo and the number of issues that had later in its life basically made me nurse the car to the car shop to trade it in. That car didnt even make 80'000 miles and I blame the diesel box for its engine issues. I see the JB boxes as being far more advanced and I think I posted this in the hope that everyone would push me away from the bluespark box. I'm going to take my car along to the garage tomorrow to get someone to have a listen.
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magic77 Brigadier General 257 Rep 3,815 Posts Drives: ex- 335i Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Surrey iTrader: (2)	hmm same boat here. last time I run my 335i came in just under 320Bhp on rolling road. Now 3 years gone and getting bored need bit more grunt. Already have the exhaust, intake from performance kit so question is ECU , plugin box or full remap. __________________ F30 335i M Sport - now departed
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Dan08 Private 28 Rep 73 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Reading iTrader: (0)	Can someone please help BlueSpark box??? https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1618335
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misguided_will Second Lieutenant 57 Rep 299 Posts Drives: 2018 BMW 340i M Sport Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	Bluespark just ups the boost right? __________________ 2018 F30 BMW 340i M Sport Injen EVO intake, OEM 437m rims, Catted VRSF dp, Magnaflow catback, Activ8 piggyback, Pedalbox.
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DriveS Lieutenant 220 Rep 541 Posts Drives: F30 335d Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Newcastle iTrader: (0)	My experience on a 335d of a 3 channel TDI box, was that it fell about 40BHP and 30NM short of the claimed figures. Getting a remap setup on a rolling road is the way i will go every time now as the results are in another league. Not too much more expensive either. When I first got the box fitted I was impressed by the difference. Getting the remap was an equal change from the box as it was from standard to box.
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dizzy619 Major 447 Rep 1,453 Posts Drives: F31 340i Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: bedfordshire iTrader: (0)	Bm3 or mhd... Sorted
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Sgm123 Second Lieutenant 54 Rep 281 Posts Drives: Bmw Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Hertfordshire iTrader: (0)	Has anyone had any reliability issues - I am seriously looking at the bm3 at the minute but still have warranty on the 340 until May 2020. Getting a bit bored and want more power.
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misguided_will Second Lieutenant 57 Rep 299 Posts Drives: 2018 BMW 340i M Sport Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	Would a bluespark from a m140i work ok on a 340i? Both have the same b58b30m0 version engine
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