[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by Goneinsixtyseconds

Even with the right wheels I couldn’t do it! But then I drive a Q7, so what do I know....

That's just a terrible picture of it's worst angle

But even so, I cannot say I like that any less than a 5 saloon, 7 saloon, X3, X1, etc. It's in the ballpark for how modern BMWs look, but seems to get more flack than all of the rest of the range. I'm still convinced that's because most people can't break the 5GT connotation.

Anyway, the main thing is that Ian likes it and will buy one soon

[Ronstein]

Originally Posted by Bibbles

Why have that sloping rear when a touring looks so much nicer!

To me looks are secondary. I'm doing 20,000 miles a year and most of my priorities sit above what it looks like. It's bigger, more luxurious, more spacious and more practical that the 5 Touring, so it's a no-brainer for me. I do accept, however, that we're all different.

The Jeep thread illustrates the opposite priorities to mine. There are those that would buy a car that's generally considered to be crap because they think it looks cool. Each to their own :-)

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by Ronstein

To me looks are secondary. I'm doing 20,000 miles a year and most of my priorities sit above what it looks like. It's bigger, more luxurious, more spacious and more practical that the 5 Touring, so it's a no-brainer for me. I do accept, however, that we're all different.

The Jeep thread illustrates the opposite priorities to mine. There are those that would buy a car that's generally considered to be crap because they think it looks cool. Each to their own :-)

Tough post to answer. I totally agree with your first paragraph. And totally disagree with the second.

I managed to answer

ETA - I don't think the Jeep thread is about it looking cool. It's about it being fun and interesting. It's also not "generally considered to be crap" outside of the confines of a BMW forum.

[Ronstein]

Originally Posted by MashinBenzin

Tough post to answer. I totally agree with your first paragraph. And totally disagree with the second.

I managed to answer

Are you a diplomat????

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by Ronstein

Are you a diplomat????

No. I found more time, edited my post in a more argumentative manner

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by Bibbles

Why have that sloping rear when a touring looks so much nicer!

about 8500 quid last time i looked at nearly new....

[Ronstein]

Originally Posted by MashinBenzin

No. I found more time, edited my post in a more argumentative manner

Good man. We'll never get the thread locked if we don't get a bit more controversial!!

"That Jeep's about as useful as Donald Trump"

That should do it

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by Ronstein

To me looks are secondary. I'm doing 20,000 miles a year and most of my priorities sit above what it looks like. It's bigger, more luxurious, more spacious and more practical that the 5 Touring, so it's a no-brainer for me. I do accept, however, that we're all different.

The Jeep thread illustrates the opposite priorities to mine. There are those that would buy a car that's generally considered to be crap because they think it looks cool. Each to their own :-)

I am in the same camp, I can live with the looks and it does everything else well (and a bit higher than a 5 touring without being as high as an X5 which I also like)....

I do f all miles these days but I do like something that isnt common and as a lot of people clearly buy good looking shit cars I will happily buy a less good looking better car....

However, the Mini passed its MoT, I am probably working reduced hours (no, I will be working the same stupid sodding hours but only being paid 80%) for a while until the world starts going out again.... so a new car, even if 8500 quid cheaper but just as good or better in all respects except looks perhaps, is probably not what should be a priority....

Lets be honest, I like the frameless doors...

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by Ronstein

Good man. We'll never get the thread locked if we don't get a bit more controversial!!

"That Jeep's about as useful as Donald Trump"

That should do it

Everything is more fucking useful than DT, even a chocolate teapot...
I've owned a Jeep in the past too. And a Renault Grand Espace. And a Vauxhall Sintra.... now there was an interesting car, bland as hell to look at, unreliable as an unreliable thing, and a 3 litre 200hp plus V6 in a bus (back in 1998!)

[Sennen]

I didnt even realise there was a 6GT in BMWs line up.

Agree with others it certainly isnt a looker

What about an Audi 7, similar type of car and the design seems to be a bit more cohesive?

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by Sennen

I didnt even realise there was a 6GT in BMWs line up.

Agree with others it certainly isnt a looker

What about an Audi 7, similar type of car and the design seems to be a bit more cohesive?

Dont like the A7 looks - come to think of it, not that keen on the A6 estate these days.... and would take the BMW over the Audi at the same price point (having had two Audis before the M5)....

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by Sennen

I didnt even realise there was a 6GT in BMWs line up.

Agree with others it certainly isnt a looker

What about an Audi 7, similar type of car and the design seems to be a bit more cohesive?

The A7 looks like a cartoon vision of what an exec hatch might look like. That's the second version. The first version looked, from behind, like it was dreadfully upset about something.

[Sennen]

They both look bloody awful if I am honest but imo the A7 would be the lesser of two evils.

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by MashinBenzin

Tough post to answer. I totally agree with your first paragraph. And totally disagree with the second.

I managed to answer

ETA - I don't think the Jeep thread is about it looking cool. It's about it being fun and interesting. It's also not "generally considered to be crap" outside of the confines of a BMW forum.

This LoL.

The U.K. section opinion that it's being bought entirely on looks. Hilarious.

Bomb proof
Lifestyle fit
Open air
One of a kind
Flexibility
Customisation
Value
Etc etc

Values not appreciated of course and too far from the safe norm of a BMW owner it seems. Likely a step too far for me also but all options are open pending a post lockdown test drive.

All of course conveniently overlooked as it fits an agenda.

TBF a 6series owners opinion is always welcome of course.

[mcoops]

Originally Posted by JustChris

This LoL.

The U.K. section opinion that it's being bought entirely on looks. Hilarious.

Bomb proof
Lifestyle fit
Open air
One of a kind
Flexibility
Customisation
Value
Etc etc

Values not appreciated of course and too far from the safe norm of a BMW owner it seems. Likely a step too far for me also but all options are open pending a post lockdown test drive.

All of course conveniently overlooked as it fits an agenda.

TBF a 6series owners opinion is always welcome of course.

Yeah but it does also look f***ing cool

[Ronstein]

Originally Posted by JustChris

This LoL.

The U.K. section opinion that it's being bought entirely on looks. Hilarious.

Bomb proof
Lifestyle fit
Open air
One of a kind
Flexibility
Customisation
Value
Etc etc

Values not appreciated of course and too far from the safe norm of a BMW owner it seems. Likely a step too far for me also but all options are open pending a post lockdown test drive.

All of course conveniently overlooked as it fits an agenda.

TBF a 6series owners opinion is always welcome of course.

That's why I suggested this in your thread

http://www.tweakedautomotive.com/lan...ectre-edition/

[Herr Dreier]

Originally Posted by MashinBenzin

The A7 looks like a cartoon vision of what an exec hatch might look like. That's the second version. The first version looked, from behind, like it was dreadfully upset about something.

Just imagine what it would have looked like with an offset number plate too

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by Ronstein

That's why I suggested this i your thread

http://www.tweakedautomotive.com/lan...ectre-edition/

Ah sorry been busy, not followed the link but aware of Tweaked yes.

ETTO and life would be dull if we all drive the same.

JEEP is a way of life for me.

Just Enough Essential PCPs

[JNW1]

Originally Posted by Goneinsixtyseconds

Even high motorway miles there’s not much point. I regularly got 45-48 mpg on a run in my 440i. A 3 litre diesel might be better, but not loads and with petrol cheaper than diesel, there was not that much difference for me even on 22,000 miles a year.

I was thinking the place where the relative lack of refinement would be least noticeable would be during motorway cruising and as, according to BMW's figures a 530d Touring is around 10mpg better than a 540i, it means the diesel will potentially go around 150 miles further on each tank. As someone who's now a low mileage driver it wouldn't influence me but perhaps it might be a factor for some of those who do a high mileage?

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by Herr Dreier

Just imagine what it would have looked like with an offset number plate too

Just imagine deciding that rear number plate placement is actually quite trivial in the ownership experience.

The number plate is also not the major problem with the D5 rear design. There's a centred one around the corner from here, it doesn't fix the things that i think need fixing

[225]

Ok so I spoke to Stratton and yes they will do that offer but when you add in a couple of packs the GFV barely goes up. msport plus and tech plus packs some 6.5k of options, made the gfv go up by 1k. This obviously increased the monthlies a fair bit.

So I am looping back round to a 2nd hand something with a b58 in it.

The next question I have is......(and probably should ask on the g series forum I know) bar the obvious shape difference for large objects and tailgate access, I would assume an saloon plus roof box is more than adequate for most lugging cr8p around trips?

Also anyone had tints fitted by a dealer to a non sun protection glass fitted car?

[Goneinsixtyseconds]

Originally Posted by JNW1

I was thinking the place where the relative lack of refinement would be least noticeable would be during motorway cruising and as, according to BMW's figures a 530d Touring is around 10mpg better than a 540i, it means the diesel will potentially go around 150 miles further on each tank. As someone who's now a low mileage driver it wouldn't influence me but perhaps it might be a factor for some of those who do a high mileage?

My experience when I moved from a 3 litre diesel to a 3 litre petrol was a difference of around 3-4 mpg. I always run the long term memory for the life of the car. I know they’re not perfect, but the 3 litre diesel averaged just over 35 mpg for its 3 years ish with me. The 440i managed around 32 mpg average over a similar period and same driving profile.

For me it was a no brainer as I can claim for most of my miles and I got 23p for the petrol miles and 13p for the diesel, so I would be worse off in the diesel even if the difference had been 10 mpg.