Michelin Pilot Sport 4 vs Pilot Sport 4 S vs Cup 2

RobUK · 08-20-2018, 01:24 PM

Michelins often mentioned around these parts. Just spotted this on YT.

F30Andy · 08-20-2018, 01:46 PM

Top video.

Nice one

teaston · 08-20-2018, 02:18 PM

Without watching it I bet I can guess:

PS4 = single compound so the cheapest.

PS4S = Best Performance road tyre available.

Cup 2 = Only good in the dry and silly wear rate.

Zippee · 08-20-2018, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

Without watching it I bet I can guess:

PS4 = single compound so the cheapest.

PS4S = Best Performance road tyre available.

Cup 2 = Only good in the dry and silly wear rate.

Watch the video, you womble....

teaston · 08-20-2018, 03:33 PM

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Watch the video, you womble....

Ok I’ve watched it now the missus has gone to bed, looks like I nailed my prediction!

Zippee · 08-20-2018, 03:37 PM

Well done, have an ice cream.

KCH1984 · 08-20-2018, 03:40 PM

Sounds like the PS4 would be the ideal fit for the F30 on UK roads given our climate (certainly in the North) and poor road surfaces. Can imagine with a more performance orientated derivative (40i / M3) you'd probably want to 4S though.

Good vid

SteveChester · 08-20-2018, 03:43 PM

It was some fanny driving a FWD car round as well

teaston · 08-20-2018, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KCH1984

Sounds like the PS4 would be the ideal fit for the F30 on UK roads given our climate (certainly in the North) and poor road surfaces. Can imagine with a more performance orientated derivative (40i / M3) you'd probably want to 4S though.

Good vid

Or get Goodyear Assymetric 3’s and save £50 a corner!

KCH1984 · 08-20-2018, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

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Originally Posted by KCH1984

Sounds like the PS4 would be the ideal fit for the F30 on UK roads given our climate (certainly in the North) and poor road surfaces. Can imagine with a more performance orientated derivative (40i / M3) you'd probably want to 4S though.

Good vid

Or get Goodyear Assymetric 3’s and save £50 a corner!

Well yeah there is that!

teaston · 08-20-2018, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KCH1984

Well yeah there is that!

Speaking of the GY’s, here’s another TyreReviews video showing the difference the width of tyres make on a 3 series, and they use the GY Assy 3’s:

SteveChester · 08-20-2018, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

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Originally Posted by KCH1984

Sounds like the PS4 would be the ideal fit for the F30 on UK roads given our climate (certainly in the North) and poor road surfaces. Can imagine with a more performance orientated derivative (40i / M3) you'd probably want to 4S though.

Good vid

Or get Goodyear Assymetric 3’s and save £50 a corner!

Why are they better or just as good?

teaston · 08-20-2018, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveChester

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Originally Posted by teaston

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Originally Posted by KCH1984

Sounds like the PS4 would be the ideal fit for the F30 on UK roads given our climate (certainly in the North) and poor road surfaces. Can imagine with a more performance orientated derivative (40i / M3) you'd probably want to 4S though.

Good vid

Or get Goodyear Assymetric 3's and save £50 a corner!

Why are they better or just as good?

Performance wise maybe slightly worse, comfort and noise wise probably slightly better, but at £200 less for a set they were a no brainer for me!

Watsey · 08-20-2018, 05:59 PM

Good vid - thanks for posting.

I really relate Michelin tyres and have run them on all of my BMWs. Going from MPSS to 4S I've found the 4S to be more sensitive to tyre pressures, especially on the front. Now running 2.6 Bar rather than 2.5 and the tramlining has reduced nicely.

Grip and traction are both a significant step up from the MPSS, although I find turn-in and directional stability on the front to not be quite so good.

Watsey · 08-20-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

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Originally Posted by T_M4CP

Watch the video, you womble....

Ok I’ve watched it now the missus has gone to bed, looks like I nailed my prediction!

You have to wait until your wife goes to bed before you can watch a tyre review ??

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teaston · 08-20-2018, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Watsey

You have to wait until your wife goes to bed before you can watch a tyre review ??

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Would your wife be happy with sitting on the sofa listening to a tyre review?

dopper99 · 08-20-2018, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

Would your wife be happy with sitting on the sofa listening to a tyre review?

Ever heard of headphones?

Daftasabrush · 08-20-2018, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

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Originally Posted by Watsey

You have to wait until your wife goes to bed before you can watch a tyre review ??

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Would your wife be happy with sitting on the sofa listening to a tyre review?

Erm, happy, possibly not, but certainly wouldn't say anything! Hell I have one set of wheels and tyres in the garage, she has 2.

Wills2 · 08-22-2018, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Watsey

You have to wait until your wife goes to bed before you can watch a tyre review ??

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I thought that was a bit odd myself.

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