Need help convincing my father to buy a bmw instead of an electric

johnung · 03-22-2023, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Billfitz

When the demand is there charger outlets will be installed. Going back 50 years when I was a touring musician I was surprised to see AC outlets at virtually every motel parking space in Minnesota and other states in the northern cold belt. A local clued me in. They were for plugging in engine block heaters. This was before synthetic oils, and without engine block heaters chances of starting your car at -20F were slim to none. I took the hint and put one into my van. Good thing I did, the day my bride and I left Minnesota on our honeymoon/trip to my next gig it was 20 below, and that was at ten in the morning.

They took many of them out once synthetic 0w oils were the rule, but you can be sure that they'll be going back in by 2035. Maybe not 480v fast charge outlets, but even 110v does the job, it just takes longer.

Twenty years ago one of my buddies who was originally from Minnesota, moved back home with his car originally purchased in Philadelphia.

He knew enough to have a plug-in block heater installed. He thought that he was ready for his first winter back, but one cold morning his car started right up with the block heater doing its job, but the car wouldn’t move.

The local garage towed his car. The mechanic chuckled when he heard about my buddy’s recent move. He said “Your car has that East Coast brake fluid that freezes up here!” He let the car warm up in the shop, replaced the brake fluid with a grade meant for extreme cold and he never had a problem again.

B58 _gran_coupe_ · 03-22-2023, 04:00 PM

Won't be able to buy a gas engine car in a few decades. Get it while you can. Plus EVs are g*y.

Billfitz · 03-22-2023, 04:44 PM

Gas engines are gone in 12 years. You'll still be able to buy used gas engine cars, but not new.

eff32fl · 03-23-2023, 06:43 AM

Porsche is making efuel that is 0 emissions that works with standard ICE engines and Toyota is as well I believe. I wouldn't necessarily bet on EVs taking over.

oem.plus_440gc · 03-23-2023, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by eff32fl

Porsche is making efuel that is 0 emissions that works with standard ICE engines and Toyota is as well I believe. I wouldn't necessarily bet on EVs taking over.

Donunt media put out a video on it a few days ago actually. As of now, I wouldnt expect it to be accessible to the public anytime soon. Wayyy too little of it and way too expensive. Maybe in the future as the tech improves and other companies are able to help produce it... would be nice to have an alternative to moving into an EV in a few years.

samu2k13 · 03-23-2023, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by B58 _gran_coupe_

Won't be able to buy a gas engine car in a few decades. Get it while you can. Plus EVs are g*y.

That's my opinion as well

fe7565 · 03-23-2023, 10:57 PM

For what it's worth: "Consumer Reports also named BMW the best overall car brand for 2023"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/consume...cars-for-2023/

For electric: expect growing technical pains and requires some trip planning. You Dad should be fairly independent.

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B58 _gran_coupe_ Lieutenant 637 Rep 555 Posts Drives: F36 440i Odin Tuned DAW turbo Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: South West Florida iTrader: (0)	Won't be able to buy a gas engine car in a few decades. Get it while you can. Plus EVs are g*y.
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Billfitz Lieutenant General 8239 Rep 16,075 Posts Drives: '15 328iX GT Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: New Hampshire iTrader: (0)	Gas engines are gone in 12 years. You'll still be able to buy used gas engine cars, but not new.
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eff32fl Lieutenant Colonel 1052 Rep 1,788 Posts Drives: 2019 440i M Sport THP MPPSK Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	Porsche is making efuel that is 0 emissions that works with standard ICE engines and Toyota is as well I believe. I wouldn't necessarily bet on EVs taking over.
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fe7565 Lieutenant Colonel 553 Rep 1,576 Posts Drives: 2012 BMW 328i N26 Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	For what it's worth: "Consumer Reports also named BMW the best overall car brand for 2023" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/consume...cars-for-2023/ For electric: expect growing technical pains and requires some trip planning. You Dad should be fairly independent. __________________ Help each other: if you manage to fix your issue (especially with help from this forum), don't be a d*ck and disappear. Follow-up by posting the solution so you can help others.
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