[Alvin Mpower]

I recently posted a question on is buying a tuned 2016 340i a good idea, and alot of people on the forum told me its not and walk away from it. Today I just find out the tune is acutally the MPPK as I looked under the hood and the M performance Power kit Badge was on the engine cover. People told me not to buy a tuned used car, but if it's OEM tuned is it less risky? Also CARFAX show this was done at BMW dealership around 30k miles, this car is currently at 39k miles, its has the MPPK along with a Dinan air intake. Is this car worth buying?

[johnnyc4225464]

Its a little hard to give advice on a car that we haven't seen but people are wary of tuned cars because of reliability concerns with stretching the design limits of the engine. However, this doesn't mean that a car is bad if it was properly modified (although many may disagree).

Do you have any more info/insight onto anything else done to the car or service history.

[Alvin Mpower]

Originally Posted by johnnyc4225464

Its a little hard to give advice on a car that we haven't seen but people are wary of tuned cars because of reliability concerns with stretching the design limits of the engine. However, this doesn't mean that a car is bad if it was properly modified (although many may disagree).

Do you have any more info/insight onto anything else done to the car or service history.

The CARFAX history only shows the air intake work and the computer reprogram which is the mppk.
https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...8B7G51GNT95419

[DreamerJoe]

if it was me I would buy it. even some of the aftermarket tunes are not pushing these motors to their limits (not even close), and the mppk is not much of a tune compared to others on the market, it's not even a stage 1 by comparison..

[Torquey]

If all other variables are to your liking (i.e. price, condition, color, options etc.)... consider the MPPSK the cherry on top! You are getting the factory flash tune plus the M performance valved exhaust. If the previous owner spent an extra $3k to buy MPPSK, I would think he took care of the car too.

[Alvin Mpower]

Originally Posted by DreamerJoe

if it was me I would buy it. even some of the aftermarket tunes are not pushing these motors to their limits (not even close), and the mppk is not much of a tune compared to others on the market, it's not even a stage 1 by comparison..

yeah, its also a expensive tune, with the exhaust, its like 2950

[johnnyc4225464]

Yeah it looks like a solid car considering the CarFax

Go for it!

[Alvin Mpower]

Originally Posted by johnnyc4225464

Yeah it looks like a solid car considering the CarFax

Go for it!

The only thing that bothers me is that they told me they could certify the car before and now they can’t, cause of the tune, but it’s a bmw OEM tune, why can’t they certify a bmw OEM tuned car? And the reason he give me is cause they know people will go hard on these cars so they don’t want to give the warranty, that sounds pretty bs to me.

[DreamerJoe]

Originally Posted by horrizenashisland

The only thing that bothers me is that they told me they could certify the car before and now they can’t, cause of the tune, but it’s a bmw OEM tune, why can’t they certify a bmw OEM tuned car? And the reason he give me is cause they know people will go hard on these cars so they don’t want to give the warranty, that sounds pretty bs to me.

probly a liability or policy thing on their end, if it's something they deem is less trouble in the future then they don't cover it. makes sense from a business standpoint I guess, but I would ask if their is something they can either do on pricing or an extended warranty. I wouldn't like the idea of being given a price+cpo, then paying the same price later after it not being a cpo.

[njdangelo]

Everyone has already given you their advice. You seem awfully adamant on buying this car. Either but it or don't. No point in waiting until someone tells you the opinion you want to hear to do what you already know your going to do.
There isn't a "right or wrong", it's a personal preference. For example, I would have no problem buying that car but I also have a second car, a garage full of tools, and enough mechanical know how to do most of the small things that could pop up so it's not as big of a risk.
You might have a different situation. That's what you need to consider. Advice from knowledgeable strangers only goes so far. You have to do what's right for you. And make sure you are making the decision with your HEAD and not your heart. Decisions of the heart mixed with bmw's tend to end in expensive life lessons!

[TonyBryant]

I have a 440i with mppsk...you’re gonna love it!

[orbE46]

I think if the PO spent the 3k on the MPPSK it means they definitely cared about the car.

[Alvin Mpower]

Originally Posted by johnnyc4225464

Yeah it looks like a solid car considering the CarFax

Go for it!

is warranty necessary for this car at this mileage? If I plan to keep it for 3-4 years.

[Alvin Mpower]

Originally Posted by DreamerJoe

probly a liability or policy thing on their end, if it's something they deem is less trouble in the future then they don't cover it. makes sense from a business standpoint I guess, but I would ask if their is something they can either do on pricing or an extended warranty. I wouldn't like the idea of being given a price+cpo, then paying the same price later after it not being a cpo.

would extended warranty be necessary for this car? Plan to keep it for around 4-5 years.

[BMWApp]

Originally Posted by horrizenashisland

The only thing that bothers me is that they told me they could certify the car before and now they can’t, cause of the tune, but it’s a bmw OEM tune, why can’t they certify a bmw OEM tuned car? And the reason he give me is cause they know people will go hard on these cars so they don’t want to give the warranty, that sounds pretty bs to me.

If I am remembering your other thread correctly, you said the car has a Dinan cold air intake. I am guessing that is why they wont CPO the car...because it has an aftermarket performance part. The MPPSK is a BMW tune and exhaust like you said and comes with its own two year warranty I believe. I will tell you that the Dinan cold air intake is great. I have one on my 2016 340i xDrive and love it. It didn't add a lot of sound since it's a closed box intake but the power gains were noticeable. Looks like you may have found a good one.

[DreamerJoe]

Originally Posted by horrizenashisland

would extended warranty be necessary for this car? Plan to keep it for around 4-5 years.

necessary? no, but if they are giving you the same price as before when they had you thinking it was going to be a CPO, then you're not getting the same value is all. and stuff happens, even though the BMW did a great job on the motor itself, my friend just got a 2017 m240i and after having it just over a month his A/C started blowing warm and cold (some sensor issue), under CPO they were able to fix it.

[Alvin Mpower]

Originally Posted by BMWApp

If I am remembering your other thread correctly, you said the car has a Dinan cold air intake. I am guessing that is why they wont CPO the car...because it has an aftermarket performance part. The MPPSK is a BMW tune and exhaust like you said and comes with its own two year warranty I believe. I will tell you that the Dinan cold air intake is great. I have one on my 2016 340i xDrive and love it. It didn't add a lot of sound since it's a closed box intake but the power gains were noticeable. Looks like you may have found a good one.

Thanks for the advice, yeah, now I can see it, I definately think is car would be a great pick up, I test drove it and love the way it sounds and drives.

[BMWApp]

Originally Posted by horrizenashisland

Thanks for the advice, yeah, now I can see it, I definately think is car would be a great pick up, I test drove it and love the way it sounds and drives.

You're welcome. I also have a 2019 X3 M40i that comes with the MPPSK standard and know what you mean by loving how the car drives and sounds. I love it too. Good luck. Let us know what you decide to do.

[mholder]

I have a 2017 340i Msport with the mppsk and the Dinan CAI and absolutely love it. This car blows just about anything out of the water short of full M badged cars.

[HarryTee]

Originally Posted by njdangelo

Everyone has already given you their advice. You seem awfully adamant on buying this car. Either but it or don't. No point in waiting until someone tells you the opinion you want to hear to do what you already know your going to do.
There isn't a "right or wrong", it's a personal preference. For example, I would have no problem buying that car but I also have a second car, a garage full of tools, and enough mechanical know how to do most of the small things that could pop up so it's not as big of a risk.
You might have a different situation. That's what you need to consider. Advice from knowledgeable strangers only goes so far. You have to do what's right for you. And make sure you are making the decision with your HEAD and not your heart. Decisions of the heart mixed with bmw's tend to end in expensive life lessons!

What kind of advice is this? Pure nonsense!

[BWbimmer]

Do you really think this car hasn't be sold or bought by now, after 4 months? A 340 with MPPSK...

He went for a 440, looking at his profile

[j2dad5389]

Someone, please correct me if I'm wrong, but what's the big deal on tuned cars? Like yeah, I get it, if someone has gone completely bonkers and did full pure stage 2 turbo + meth + custom tunes, that's one thing, but a simple stage 1 Tune? You're fine.

My car has an upgraded intercooler, charge pipe, and BM3 Stage 1. I am perfectly comfortable with that. Anything beyond that I would understand being wary.

Tunes are not bad for your car. They are completely reliable, actually. They do however accelerate any potential maintenance and/or issues that may arise from your car in its the normal state. Oil changes every 10 or 5k? Now do it every 5k or 2.5k. Spark plugs every 30? Now do every 12-15. Etc.

That is the only thing I can think of when tuning cars. It just wears your car faster, making you have to maintain it faster. My .2