[Sullym6]

Hi all

I have been staying off the forum as I spend too much money.
I have been reading the Surrey rr thread and whilst I have a bluespark I know deep down I want a remap.
Is DMS the best remap which not only gives good results but also is not going to cause issues like dpf etc.
Few have said they thinking of remap do you think we could get a group discount?

Sully

[Tengocity]

I've done 99k miles in my 335d, 80k of which with a DMS remap. No issues to speak of.

[Sullym6]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

I've done 99k miles in my 335d, 80k of which with a DMS remap. No issues to speak of.

What power figures did you get on the remapped 335d, notice you got the 330e now

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by Sullym6

What power figures did you get on the remapped 335d, notice you got the 330e now

I've got both, plus a Boxster

The 335d ran at the previous dyno day and showed 370bhp and quite a bit over 700NM.

[Sullym6]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

I've got both, plus a Boxster

The 335d ran at the previous dyno day and showed 370bhp and quite a bit over 700NM.

You lucky man

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by Sullym6

You lucky man

Meh, it's all relative, but I can't complain too much about my cars I guess. Though I do!

[JLR1969]

Have a chat with Darth Helmut he used a local company who gave a really good remap and was probably half the price of the DMS map.

Tony did a lot of research before deciding and did not remap his car lightly.

If I ever had my car done I would go to the same place.

[Darth Helmut]

Yes, thanks JLR1969.

I got mine done at Avon Tuning just outside Bristol but from what I gather, they utilise the (err someone help me out please!) profile software. Very knowledgeable chaps and gave me tons of reassurance on how they tackle the job and what it entails. Very important to me as the car is only 1 year old.

I went from a Bluespark Pro + Boost to the remap. The figures Avon quoted are pretty much spot on to what I saw on the RR on Saturday but the thing that really pleased me was the curve profiles of both torque and bhp. They quoted 360bhp/700Nm and my results were 367/705. Apart from the headline figures, the way it drives is epic. So much pull all the way through. The mid range is very good indeed. And being a child, the 0-60 time makes me giggle like a kid (3.89 secs)

If you are planning to jump to a remap, do exactly as you are doing now and do plenty of research. There are always pros and cons and there are always the occasional horror stories from one particular map option or another. One thing I decided on was not the ultimate headline figure (other remaps would offer me more power or torque) but the confidence, reputation and reviews various tuners have. A couple of mates has theirs done at Avon and were very happy with the work. Dont be afraid to probe, cross examine and downright annoy whoever you choose to do it. If they are good, they will want to tell you as much as they can and should be able to.

I guess the bottom line is budget/need/expectation. If you can answer those three points to yourself, you will find the right tuning option.

[Sullym6]

Originally Posted by Darth Helmut

Yes, thanks JLR1969.

I got mine done at Avon Tuning just outside Bristol but from what I gather, they utilise the (err someone help me out please!) profile software. Very knowledgeable chaps and gave me tons of reassurance on how they tackle the job and what it entails. Very important to me as the car is only 1 year old.

I went from a Bluespark Pro + Boost to the remap. The figures Avon quoted are pretty much spot on to what I saw on the RR on Saturday but the thing that really pleased me was the curve profiles of both torque and bhp. They quoted 360bhp/700Nm and my results were 367/705. Apart from the headline figures, the way it drives is epic. So much pull all the way through. The mid range is very good indeed. And being a child, the 0-60 time makes me giggle like a kid (3.89 secs)

If you are planning to jump to a remap, do exactly as you are doing now and do plenty of research. There are always pros and cons and there are always the occasional horror stories from one particular map option or another. One thing I decided on was not the ultimate headline figure (other remaps would offer me more power or torque) but the confidence, reputation and reviews various tuners have. A couple of mates has theirs done at Avon and were very happy with the work. Dont be afraid to probe, cross examine and downright annoy whoever you choose to do it. If they are good, they will want to tell you as much as they can and should be able to.

I guess the bottom line is budget/need/expectation. If you can answer those three points to yourself, you will find the right tuning option.

I think I am looking for a tried remapper as I have read the odd horror thread with a remap causing issues.
It?s exactly as you say with regards to increase across the whole range rather than a boat load of torque in one go.
I haven?t even looked at costs so would be good to know what dms and Avon charge, my understanding is it?s not much more than a dtuk box.
I am manchester based so travelling to Southampton or Bristol I need confidence it will be a good remap.
How many miles have you covered since the remap?
Will give Avon and dms a call and maybe someone more local

Sully

[Darth Helmut]

I've done about 500 miles since remap and it hasn't missed a beat.

[matty81]

I went with DMS, they got an extra 80bhp out of my 335i, was really Impressed with them and they really know their stuff, they may be a bit more than some places but you can haggle them down a fair bit

[Hooded]

Simon from Emaps has been around tuning cars for many years and has a very good reputation on various BMW forums.
He remapped my 320d 3 and a half years ago, car goes very well now and no problems with it at all. Nice guy, great remaps.

He quotes 366bhp and 730nm torque for the 35d and he'll travel to you!

Cheers

[dizzy619]

Just had my 335d remapped by Dms.... Yes they are not the cheapest... But they have been doing it on the f30 for the longest... And for me the extra cost is worth it as they offer 3 years of free re-remap if the map is wiped by any bmw software updates.

[Sullym6]

I think emaps is just a generic flash rather than a proper remap taking into account your preferences and rr results.
DMS seem to pop up a fair bit and I will give them a call.

Thanks
Sully

[F36 435d]

I got my 435d Xdrive done by Rick at Unicorn Motor Developments in Stockport. Bmw Specialist, custom remap with 4wd dyno. Cost £400 when i got it done but i think he has put the price up now to £500. Running 393 BHP & 864nm and hasn't skipped a beat. Massive improvement I got a consistent 0-60 3.7 seconds and it even dipped to 3.6 at one point & 0-100 9.1 seconds on the VBOX.

He also did my previous F10 535d 313PS and had no issues with that.
A good few people on the F30 Facebook group have used Unicorn Motor Developments too on the 35ds. Have a look at the Instagram & Facebook page.

[Hooded]

Originally Posted by Sullym6

I think emaps is just a generic flash rather than a proper remap taking into account your preferences and rr results.
DMS seem to pop up a fair bit and I will give them a call.

Thanks
Sully

Depends what you mean by generic exactly. Simon doesn't just flash a generic map file on your car like some amateur tuners do .. he downloads your cars own map and modifies the parameters on that and then uploads it back to the car. It's not a custom RR remap though. I'm guessing some of these DMS remaps are just done in the same way as Simons too though?

DMS are twice the price of Simon which is the main reason I will use him again on my next car, that along with his good reputation, and the great job he did on my current car.
Nothing wrong with DMS though if your happy to pay the high price, their remaps do look impressive and up there with the best of them from what I've seen on here.

[Watsey]

I've done about 500 miles with a DMS dyno remap on my 330D F31. Initial impressions compared to the MPPK which I had for a couple of years and ~35K miles are :

Now runs more smoothly and quieter.
Engine is much more urgent and responsive : the upgrade from MPPK to DMS is greater than going from stock to MPPK. It pulls very strongly.
No warning lights, no limp modes, no change in oil temp, no fuelling issues.

Really good upgrade and worth the money IMO.

[dizzy619]

Originally Posted by Hooded

Depends what you mean by generic exactly. Simon doesn't just flash a generic map file on your car like some amateur tuners do .. he downloads your cars own map and modifies the parameters on that and then uploads it back to the car. It's not a custom RR remap though. I'm guessing some of these DMS remaps are just done in the same way as Simons too though?

DMS are twice the price of Simon which is the main reason I will use him again on my next car, that along with his good reputation, and the great job he did on my current car.
Nothing wrong with DMS though if your happy to pay the high price, their remaps do look impressive and up there with the best of them from what I've seen on here.

How much would Simon charge to reinstall the map if bmw wiped it when doing the update? Also would he come to you for free to remove it for warranty work to be done?

[Ajs_435d]

Whatever you do get a before and after dyno run.

I'm not saying its an old car, but i have often seen issues with cars and then the customer gets them remapped on top without knowing if the car is healthy, for example split diaphragms for boost or stuck WG etc etc.

[Hooded]

Originally Posted by dizzy619

How much would Simon charge to reinstall the map if bmw wiped it when doing the update? Also would he come to you for free to remove it for warranty work to be done?

From memory I'm sure he charges something like £50 at the most to put it back on if it's been wiped with an update and he also saves your original file in case you need it putting back on as you say for warranty work or just to sell the car. You would need travel to him though in the west midlands otherwise he'd charge a bit extra if he had to travel to you I'm sure. Your looking more in region of £400 for a remap though so I don't consider a small fee a problem.

Simon has always offered a first class service and is very respected in some of the online BMW communities particularly on the old BMW land forum.
He will travel to you (does charge slightly more if it's a long drive), gives your car a good checking over and looks at the injector correction values and stuff like that before doing the tuning. He asks you exactly what type of map you want etc. As far the actual remap itself goes .. he downloads your cars own map, saves a copy on his laptop in case you want to revert back then modifies the parameters on your cars own map. Then after uploading the new map to your car he clears all the fault codes that pop up initially and you go for a test drive with him as the passenger with his laptop plugged in checking everything is as it should be, he will adjust the map a little if there's a problem, if it's over fuelling or anything like that. There were no problems at all when we went for the test drive in mine so I think that's rare anyway.
Genuinely nice guy and wouldn't hesitate you use his services on my next car.

[JLR1969]

Originally Posted by Hooded

Depends what you mean by generic exactly. Simon doesn't just flash a generic map file on your car like some amateur tuners do .. he downloads your cars own map and modifies the parameters on that and then uploads it back to the car. It's not a custom RR remap though. I'm guessing some of these DMS remaps are just done in the same way as Simons too though?

DMS are twice the price of Simon which is the main reason I will use him again on my next car, that along with his good reputation, and the great job he did on my current car.
Nothing wrong with DMS though if your happy to pay the high price, their remaps do look impressive and up there with the best of them from what I've seen on here.

Originally Posted by F36 435d

I got my 435d Xdrive done by Rick at Unicorn Motor Developments in Stockport. Bmw Specialist, custom remap with 4wd dyno. Cost £400 when i got it done but i think he has put the price up now to £500. Running 393 BHP & 864nm and hasn't skipped a beat. Massive improvement I got a consistent 0-60 3.7 seconds and it even dipped to 3.6 at one point & 0-100 9.1 seconds on the VBOX.

He also did my previous F10 535d 313PS and had no issues with that.
A good few people on the F30 Facebook group have used Unicorn Motor Developments too on the 35ds. Have a look at the Instagram & Facebook page.

864Nm are you sure???

Not wanting to start another SRR episode but that's about 100Nm more than I would expect and seriously unbelievable

Do you have the rolling road graph?

[Hooded]

Originally Posted by JLR1969

864Nm are you sure???

Not wanting to start another SRR episode but that's about 100Nm more than I would expect and seriously unbelievable

Do you have the rolling road graph?

Please don't quote me in on this too.. you know what I'll have to say about 864nm torque with no other mods

Edit: ignoring the torque figure ., the vbox times are impressive either way if it's on the flat not down hill. I think 375bhp is 0-100 in around 9.5 on these x35d cars roughly at best.