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      04-01-2018, 03:23 PM   #89
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Disappointing numbers for Stage 2+... I'm curious to see how much the new AA HFC DP will unlock...
This is inline with what they advertised. They had some dyno sheets floating around with a dp that put up 365 hp if I recall. I think he’ll be close
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Guys, I think everyone here jump into conclusion a little too early. With the 340whp run, a few important perspectives fail to be taken into consideration.

Is the car PWG or EWG? In 335i form, PWG is some 270whp stock and EWG 15whp more. Either way 340whp is a good gain for a setup of IC only (the only performance related mod on the car).

Also, 300whp as his 'baseline' was done on a different day different dyno, which virtually mean nothing at all. Proper way is flash back to stock on the same dyno again.

With the curve, I think there is maybe 10-15 in the range of 4500-5500 if it's a EWG. Doesn't surprise me as AA seems to market their product with power consistency a bit more than others.

Lastly I don't even think dp is a worthy mod because there're too many to give with it. The refinement of car decreases significantly as cell count goes down, in the meanwhile, power in return is minimal if you believe me.
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Disappointing numbers for Stage 2+... I'm curious to see how much the new AA HFC DP will unlock...
Its a stage 1+ not stage 2+

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Also, 300whp as his 'baseline' was done on a different day different dyno, which virtually mean nothing at all. Proper way is flash back to stock on the same dyno again.

With the curve, I think there is maybe 10-15 in the range of 4500-5500 if it's a EWG. Doesn't surprise me as AA seems to market their product with power consistency a bit more than others.

raichean you are comparing 2 different dynos on 2 different days.
You need to do a baseline on the same dyno ... For all we know the dyno you are using now can read a lot lower than the one you used the first time with your baseline run
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I understand but it's what I have.. I am very happy with it and the car and shows it. Believe me or not, that's your choice.

I have gotten PMs about how i did something wrong, they did something wrong, something wrong with my car, and so on and so on. I definitely know I am limited by the DP, and will change that as well soon and will run a dyno pass again at the same location. That said, that run won't be and cant be exactly the samenl either! Different day, different conditions, new ECU build for the DP and the DP itself!

All in all I am VERY pleased with every component, the car is faster, more responsive and fun. Working AA primarily and their products has been great, and Mike of XPH is awesome. I am excited for the AA high flow DP and will share the results here.

Initial review of the full logs by a friend I trust who took his N55 F30 over 425rwp, says I am right where I should be. 92 octane, stock DP and no E85 are the major factors, but all in all very positive stable improvements.

I am also waiting on the review of full logs from AA.
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Disappointing numbers for Stage 2+... I'm curious to see how much the new AA HFC DP will unlock...
Its a stage 1+ not stage 2+

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Also, 300whp as his 'baseline' was done on a different day different dyno, which virtually mean nothing at all. Proper way is flash back to stock on the same dyno again.

With the curve, I think there is maybe 10-15 in the range of 4500-5500 if it's a EWG. Doesn't surprise me as AA seems to market their product with power consistency a bit more than others.

raichean you are comparing 2 different dynos on 2 different days.
You need to do a baseline on the same dyno ... For all we know the dyno you are using now can read a lot lower than the one you used the first time with your baseline run
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Disappointing numbers for Stage 2+... I'm curious to see how much the new AA HFC DP will unlock...
Its a stage 1+ not stage 2+

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Also, 300whp as his 'baseline' was done on a different day different dyno, which virtually mean nothing at all. Proper way is flash back to stock on the same dyno again.

With the curve, I think there is maybe 10-15 in the range of 4500-5500 if it's a EWG. Doesn't surprise me as AA seems to market their product with power consistency a bit more than others.

raichean you are comparing 2 different dynos on 2 different days.
You need to do a baseline on the same dyno ... For all we know the dyno you are using now can read a lot lower than the one you used the first time with your baseline run

I understand but it's what I have.. I am not going to strip my car back to stock, assuming I could, to do a baseline run.

Mike is correct, different dyno, different day and conditions, but it's at least a reference point.

I am an confused though by the amount of freak out here by some folks.. the AA tune is absolutely better and a great progression of the car, and feels and shows it. Believe me or not, that's your choice.

I have gotten PMs about how i did something wrong, they did something wrong, something wrong with my car, and so on and so on. I definitely know I am limited by the DP, and will change that as well soon and will run a dyno pass again at the same location. That said, that run won't be and cant be exactly the samenl either! Different day, different conditions, new ECU build for the DP and the DP itself!

All in all I am VERY pleased with every component, the car is faster, more responsive and fun. Working AA and their products has been great, and Mike of XPH is awesome. I am excited for the AA high flow DP and will share the results here.
Hey man props for doing this for the community and taking the time to post. There are so many haters on this forum who haven't done a tenth of what you have for the knowledge base of the community.

So yea- fuck em
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Well ,looking forward to see your progress. Follow your senses ,you know your car,,will be interesting to see how she does with the dp. I’m sure AA will chime in or you’ll keep us updated.
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Hey man props for doing this for the community and taking the time to post. There are so many haters on this forum who haven't done a tenth of what you have for the knowledge base of the community.

So yea- fuck em
For the record I am not attacking anyone, just confused by the angst from some and the PMs from others.

I will go through the logs very closely and if there are adjustments to be made I will. I also will check, on suggestion, to make sure I dont have a turbo leak but dont believe I do. (but will check it anyway)

I will keep sharing here and moving forward with what I have..
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Hey man props for doing this for the community and taking the time to post. There are so many haters on this forum who haven't done a tenth of what you have for the knowledge base of the community.

So yea- fuck em
I think folks are rooting for him and are just interested in helping. Lots of comments here have been constructive , Some expected higher numbers me included. No one discouraged the op for having the AA tune, even those here with BM3 were hoping and rooting for the OP.
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For the record I am not attacking anyone, just confused by the angst from some and the PMs from others.

I will go through the logs very closely and if there are adjustments to be made I will. I also will check, on suggestion, to make sure I dont have a turbo leak but dont believe I do. (but will check it anyway)

I will keep sharing here and moving forward with what I have..
Thanks Raichean I’m sure your findings will only open eyes to the potential of another tune(AA) for the market. Wishing success. Do make sure there are no leaks.and all connections are solid.
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@raichean You've misunderstood a little bit. No need to take off hardwares next time you do it.

Always keep in mind do not dyno without baseline, at minimum baseline should be on same dyno machine. You can do a FBO stock tune for your baseline.
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@raichean You've misunderstood a little bit. No need to take off hardwares next time you do it.

Always keep in mind do not dyno without baseline, at minimum baseline should be on same dyno machine. You can do a FBO stock tune for your baseline.
Good thoughts and understood.
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Initial review of the full logs by a friend I trust who took his N55 F30 over 425rwp, says I am right where I should be. 92 octane, stock DP and no E85 are the major factors, but all in all very positive stable improvements.

I am also waiting on the review of full logs from AA.
You definitely are right where you should be. And more importantly right inline with what AA said of 80hp gain with a catless dp (you are at 60 Bc stock cars usually dyno at 280 on a good day). And you are inline with the dyno results that AA and mike were posting for expected gains. I think that car dynoed at 365 or so

So anyone that is PMIng you telling you something is wrong or anyone that had higher expectations clearly has not been following this AA tune option bc as stated above you are dead inline. I think your results are actuslly high end.
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I think folks are rooting for him and are just interested in helping. Lots of comments here have been constructive , Some expected higher numbers me included. No one discouraged the op for having the AA tune, even those here with BM3 were hoping and rooting for the OP.
Please explain why you expected higher. See above
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Good thoughts and understood.
raichean , thanks for posting up your detailed results.

I really appreciate your time and effort, and the data you provided.
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Good thoughts and understood.
Are you an EWG or PWG?
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Our software team will be reviewing the logs today, but from a quick glance at the logs the boost numbers seem low by 3-4psi.
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raichean solid run man. I haven't' looked at your logs yet but I would bet that the DME is pulling timing due to high IATs. Make sure that the hood is up and you have some really good fans blowing right on the FMIC. Also give it some time between pulls. When I dyno'd my second pull was actually stronger then my first pull with a 10 min gap. Ambient was about 79 and my IATs never went over 106 degrees during the pull. Here are my logs for comparison. This is on California 91 octane with 2 gals of corn thrown in.

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raichean solid run man. I haven't' looked at your logs yet but I would bet that the DME is pulling timing due to high IATs. Make sure that the hood is up and you have some really good fans blowing right on the FMIC. Also give it some time between pulls. When I dyno'd my second pull was actually stronger then my first pull with a 10 min gap. Ambient was about 79 and my IATs never went over 106 degrees during the pull. Here are my logs for comparison. This is on California 91 octane with 2 gals of corn thrown in.

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Are you able to post it with just the timing ,psi,rpm,iat,and boost? Very crowded logging all those things. Thanks Your IAT's are nice and low compared to Raichean session. Interesting.
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raichean solid run man. I haven't' looked at your logs yet but I would bet that the DME is pulling timing due to high IATs. Make sure that the hood is up and you have some really good fans blowing right on the FMIC. Also give it some time between pulls. When I dyno'd my second pull was actually stronger then my first pull with a 10 min gap. Ambient was about 79 and my IATs never went over 106 degrees during the pull. Here are my logs for comparison. This is on California 91 octane with 2 gals of corn thrown in.

1st run
http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5a4589a2d10b4307dadd6db7

2nd run
http://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=5a458b9bd10b4307dadd6db8

A good fan setup on the dyno is definitely very important. A few degrees of timing are worth quite a bit on these cars.
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