[TSM330i]

Originally Posted by openwheelracing

Plenty of stock available. Either you are not an important client or doesn't know where to look.

Vintage GMTs are plentiful too but at premium prices I don't understand. Tons of those out there.

Where are the plentiful? New SS Sport models is what we're referring to, not vintage GMTs that you can buy anywhere. GMTs, Subs, Daytona's - brand new 2019 models (yes, I want to be perfectly clear because you brought up vintage GMTs).

I'm calling BS on the new SS Sport models. I'm on TRF every day and there are endless threads of people looking for SS Sport models.

I am on the preferred list and got a SS Daytona about 9 weeks after I told my AD I wanted one. This took me 10 years to build this relationship with my AD along with plenty of money being spent.

I'd like to pick up another Hulk for a friend of mine - at MSRP, so show me the way and I'll purchase it on the spot.

[henrylee]

Originally Posted by TSM330i

Where are the plentiful? New SS Sport models is what we're referring to, not vintage GMTs that you can buy anywhere. GMTs, Subs, Daytona's - brand new 2019 models (yes, I want to be perfectly clear because you brought up vintage GMTs).

I'm calling BS on the new SS Sport models. I'm on TRF every day and there are endless threads of people looking for SS Sport models.

I am on the preferred list and got a SS Daytona about 9 weeks after I told my AD I wanted one. This took me 10 years to build this relationship with my AD along with plenty of money being spent.

I'd like to pick up another Hulk for a friend of mine - at MSRP, so show me the way and I'll purchase it on the spot.

I agree. ADs are now selling there SS sport models to clients that spend 100k a year. I only recent got called on a CHNR root beer which I wasn’t interested in but let my friend purchase it by showing up together. Been waiting for a SS Daytona for >2 years now.

[wyatth]

The shortage is a real thing, but Rolex can F* off with this bubble. Some ADs are downright rude to potential customers just because they can be now. That's fine, plenty of other fine timepieces to choose from.

[The Libertine]

Originally Posted by wyatth

The shortage is a real thing, but Rolex can F* off with this bubble. Some ADs are downright rude to potential customers just because they can be now. That's fine, plenty of other fine timepieces to choose from.

I’ve encountered both friendly and rude ADs over the past couple of months. For those rude ADs, I hope they choke on their greed when this bubble bursts.

[LuvMyE92]

My local AD is very polite and apologetic that he can't get me anything that I want. I sold my BLNR earlier this year at a nice profit (I paid MSRP for it a year earlier) and now, since I can't actually obtain a new Sub and I refuse to pay over MSRP for a used watch (!!!!) I bought an Omega Seamaster. Which does everything that a sub can do (i.e. tell time) and at half the price.

[New2Roundel]

Originally Posted by LuvMyE92

My local AD is very polite and apologetic that he can't get me anything that I want. I sold my BLNR earlier this year at a nice profit (I paid MSRP for it a year earlier) and now, since I can't actually obtain a new Sub and I refuse to pay over MSRP for a used watch (!!!!) I bought an Omega Seamaster. Which does everything that a sub can do (i.e. tell time) and at half the price.

Definitely the smart move, IMO. There's nothing in the material world I'm willing to jump through extensive hoops to acquire. Life's too short and frankly, few things are rare enough to warrant such behavior. The again, I bought my explorer II in 2016 for about 10% off MSRP. I have the Rolex I want and have no interest in anything else they sell. So I'm all set. I feel bad for the people currently lusting over Rolex watches, have their money ready, and are still not able to get what they want.

[ASAP]

Paid MSRP for my 116610ln sub in Dec of last year... wouldn't pay $1 over... only other Rolex I want is Panda Daytona... also wouldn't pay $1 over msrp... when it comes it comes; otherwise no thanks.

[ny325]

I bought my SS Submariner, and SS Datejust many years ago. The prices are now insane. I actually rarely wear them. I wear my Seiko SRP773, Sarb033, along with yes, Timex. One of my favorite is the Timex Explorer.

[TheWatchGuy]

Originally Posted by ASAP

Paid MSRP for my 116610ln sub in Dec of last year... wouldn't pay $1 over... only other Rolex I want is Panda Daytona... also wouldn't pay $1 over msrp... when it comes it comes; otherwise no thanks.

yeah its crazy what prices were at just 8 months ago

i was selling the 116610s for 8-8500 and now i could be getting 9500-10k easy

Same with the daytonas. I almost pulled the trigger on the panda at 12k last year but thought maybe i could find a better deal. 24k+ later...

[ny325]

I was in Wempe in NYC. No SS sport watches. I was looking for a Explorer/white dial, no luck. Display case pretty much empty. If your looking for two-tone Gold/SS, you have many options.

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by TheWatchGuy

yeah its crazy what prices were at just 8 months ago

i was selling the 116610s for 8-8500 and now i could be getting 9500-10k easy

Same with the daytonas. I almost pulled the trigger on the panda at 12k last year but thought maybe i could find a better deal. 24k+ later...

What makes this realllly funnnyyy... is that I thought I overpaid at MSRP...

Everyone was with the false belief that possibly Basel would release a new Sub or new movement... didn't happen.

[TheWatchGuy]

Originally Posted by ASAP

What makes this realllly funnnyyy... is that I thought I overpaid at MSRP...

Everyone was with the false belief that possibly Basel would release a new Sub or new movement... didn't happen.

i think most everyone (or at least the ones with an ear to the market) were speculating the GMT would be discontinued and a new one with new movement would happen (which both did)

I dont remember many, if any, were saying the subc was going away in favor of a new model.

[0-60Motorsports]

Originally Posted by ASAP

I heard yesterday from my AD that Rolex is trying to kill off the resellers and gray market with their ridiculous prices. Not entirely sure how holding off on inventory makes that strategy work or how long Rolex can survive with that strategy.

I really hope this happens. I would love to get a GMT MASTER II in Black (they have been discontinued this year) but wont pay a cent over MSRP for a brand new one.