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Suspension is fine wouldn't say it's soft. Put it this way, on our roads I wouldn't want a stiffer ride, especially with 19" RFT. In any case, if you must, ACS springs. Economy "a lot lower"?? May be a couple of mpg but if you have to save that you're buying the wrong car. Handling is an interesting one. I'd wager xDrive can get the power down better hence the quicker 0-60 so drive out of corners is quicker. Given a typical greasy UK roundabout I'd happily test speed through it verse an sDrive and see who makes through in one piece. As for the the snow days, I've caught out travelling from A-B when it started snowing mid journey, very happy to xDrive just for that. |
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I cannot stand the height of x-drive cars. The F3X are such stunning cars ruined by the look of the ride height.
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I was a Police officer for 30 years and spent 25 of those on Traffic and Motorway, and as a Forensic Collision Investigator that looked into handling issues in fatal crashes. Have driven lots of high powered cars of all types of drive dating back to the Ford Sierra Cosworth right up to modern day 335d's both in S and X-drive. Had one to one tuition at Mira test track on vehicle handling and pushing cars to their limits in the wet, dry and simulated snow and ice. One of the cars I used for that was a rear wheel drive M3. All have their pro's and cons but I prefer the handling and predictability of the BMW S-drive.
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12-07-2016, 09:18 AM | #52 | |
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Good point about the predictability of SDrive - haven't properly pushed the Xdrive to know. But people (can I generalise 4x4 owners?) do think that 4WD/AWD make them invincible. We are all probably being picky - modern day cars are exceptional. A family car pushing out over 300hp in either 2or4wd status - even in estate form. Both cars handle exceptionally well. Motorists have never had it so good! |
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In the last week I've gone from a M Sport 320d F31 S-drive to a 335d F31 obviously with X-drive and I've got to say I'm preferring the softer suspension. I live in rural Cambridgeshire where the roads aren't great and I actually feel more secure with the softer suspension. For example as I come out of the village and put my foot down there's a slight bump that in the 320d with the stiffer suspension made the car feel skittish. The softer suspension seems to absorb it that much better without throwing the car off-line. There's other bumps and undulations where the softer suspension just seems to grip the road better than the M Sport suspension and I don't feel I'm fighting it to keep it from jumping about.
I've got the car on a cheap 11 month contract, ideally I would have specified adaptive suspension but I've kept it as is and I'm happy with it. And I don't even notice the extra ride height. Even when I had both on my drive looking at them you couldn't see the difference. |
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And you could also argue why haven't they produced an M4 GC? That would look amazing. Anyway, I'll just leave this here for now: http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1332342 |
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I'm sure if other manufacturers could manage it, then the m division could come up with a decent 4wd/ AWD set up if they put their minds to it. Perhaps it comes down to cost vs perceived demand. |
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12-08-2016, 05:10 AM | #57 | |
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For christs sake how much higher is the x drive suspension than S drive. 12 inches or 24 inches? My new 330d with xdrive and post LCI suspension tweeks drives as well and comfortably as any car I've travelled in.(MIND ON MICHELIN PILOT SS TYRES) .Also I see very little of the look of the exterior when I'm behind the wheel. If the Op wants Xdrive let him have it, particularly if he's happy for the car to sort out his traction problems for him. |
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When my attention was drawn to it I can see the difference but for me it's minimal. Subjective I suppose but I'd guess that the majority outside of this forum may not notice either. |
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12-08-2016, 06:53 AM | #59 | |
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Once you really look into the finances (once all spec is compared as you get extra on the 3.0d like full parking sensors etc.) the prices just were not that different, including insurance. mpg diff will be ~ 5 mpg worse for the 3.0d. After I had the two test drives there was NO WAY ON EARTH I was going to be running the 2.0d tractor. Pretty powerless and dreadful sounding IMHO. The 3.0 is a completely different (and better) beast. 40-70mph makes me grin even now, 1.5 years down the line... Try them out!
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190bhp is hardly powerless! I've thoroughly enjoyed every minute of driving the 2.0d.
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